Arizona bill 1070

MrBishop said:
People are selected for permanent citizenship based on skills, education and language skills primarily...there are other factors, of course..including health.
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Bigots.

Let 'em all in. That's what the world wants us to do.
 
Maybe we could spend some stimulus monies on a bullet-train, expresss from Tijuana to Toronto. >~>~>~The Freedom-Flyer~>~>~>
 
2minkey said:
this isn't a congressional debate. get a sense of humor and, for the love of jebus, just put me on ignore, okay big boy?
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Nah.

1. I have a sense of humor. Most of the stuff you say evokes a laugh. ;)
2. You say something poignant sometimes.
3. When I think your post is mistimed, or, IMO, outright wrong, I will reply with what I believe to be the most correct answer.
 
Toronto adopts AZ +1 ID law.

It seems that the Ontario government has decided that the police should have the power to hook and haul anyone without an ID or who refuses to produce an ID. This law will stay in effect until the G20 is over.

Why did they need to pass this law in secret?

Always remember: There is nothing more permanent than a temporary government program -- or law.

SOURCE

'Secret' law lets police arrest for failing to show ID near summit

The Ottawa Citizen June 25, 2010

TORONTO — The Ontario government secretly passed legislation giving police sweeping new powers for the duration of the G8 and G20 summits.

Police are now able to jail anyone who refuses to furnish identification and submit to a search while within five metres of a designated security zone in downtown Toronto.

Critics reacted furiously to the new rules, which remained unpublicized until Thursday when a 32 year-old man was arrested in Toronto for refusing to show ID to police.

New Democrat MPP Peter Kormos said Friday the provincial Liberals created a “Kafka-esque” situation where people could be arrested for violating rules they didn’t know existed.

“This is very very repugnant stuff and should be troubling to everybody,” he said.

The Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA) said it was “extremely concerned” that the new measures violate constitutional safeguards.

Nathalie Des Rosiers, general counsel for the CCLA said the changes are contrary to Canadian law.

“You don’t have any obligation to speak to Canadian police, to give your name or the reasons for your existence unless you’ve done something wrong — unless you’re being detained or arrested,” she said. “So on its face, it’s a dramatic change from what our constitution guarantees.”

The CCLA said the government “owed it” to its citizens to inform them of the changes. The group will be in court to challenge arrests made on what it deems unconstitutional grounds.

Premier Dalton McGuinty and his Community Safety Minister, Rick Bartolucci, defended the government action.

McGuinty said he attempted to “limit the intrusiveness” of the powers by applying them to a specific zone in downtown Toronto.

“I think most Ontarians understand that there is something extraordinary happening inside our province. There is a real concern that is heightened at this point in time related to security and that's why this special measure is there.”

Nevertheless, critics blasted the government for failing to debate the changes in the legislature, which was in session when they were first discussed by a cabinet committee on June 2.

“We learned about this today from (the media),” said Conservative MPP Garfield Dunlop. “This is a disgrace. We were sitting in the legislature when this happened. We had lots of time to debate this stuff.”

Bartolucci, who is also the minister of correctional services, said the changes were voted in by a special five-member meeting of cabinet on June 14. The regulations were then posted on a relatively obscure government website, www.e-laws.gov.on.ca.

He said the changes were demanded by Toronto police.

“There was no secretive process here,” he said. “The reality is this is the process that is followed with every regulation. Those who view e-laws — and I’m sure that they’re viewed by lawyers — were well aware this regulation was passed.”

The changes deemed Toronto’s downtown security zone — surrounded by a three-metre fence — a “public work” akin to a hydroelectric station or courthouse. Those fixtures are governed by a 1939 law known as the Public Works Protection Act.

The new regulation allows police to demand identification from and search without warrant anyone who comes within five metres of the security zone.

Police officers may also “use such force as is necessary” to prevent anyone from entering the security zone.

They took effect last Monday and will remain in place until this coming Monday.

McGuinty said the same powers are in place in many other public spaces.

“What we’re saying is if during this seven-day period, you want to go visit the secure zone, that’s going to be like going to visit the airport, city hall, courthouse or the Ontario Legislature,” he said.

“These are all special public spaces where security is a heightened concern and police are going to be entitled to ask for ID and to search your bag as a condition for being there. You’ve got a choice. You can comply. You can refuse. If you refuse, then you will have to leave.”

© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen
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people could be arrested for violating rules they didn’t know existed
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse?

Just as long as it's not done in Arizona, and in the open.
 
The administration posts signs in the middle of the desert warning about how dangerous the area is, because of drug running and human smuggling, yet still fails -- in the face of this admission -- to secure the border.

SOURCE

Brewer Slams Administration Over Smuggler Warning Signs in Arizona Desert

Published June 29, 2010

| FOXNews.com

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is slamming the Obama administration over government signs posted in the Arizona desert warning visitors to beware of illegal smugglers, saying the signs are hardly the kind of border security plan her state needs.

"This is an outrage," Brewer said in a new reelection campaign ad.

The ad shows the governor standing next to one of the warning signs in the middle of the Arizona desert, 80 miles from the border and, according to the ad, 30 miles from Phoenix. The signs have in recent weeks drawn attention from border-state lawmakers who say they demonstrate how unsafe the region has become. In the ad, Brewer noted that she recently met with President Obama, who "promised that we would get word" on the administration's border security plan.

"Well, we finally got the message -- these signs. These signs, calling our desert an active drug and human smuggling area. These signs warning people of danger and telling them to stay away," Brewer said in the ad. "Washington says our border is as safe as it has ever been. Does this look safe to you?"

The ad ended with a confrontational message: "Washington is broken, Mr. President. Do your job. Secure our borders. Arizona and the nation are waiting."

One of the signs warns visitors that "smuggling and illegal immigration may be encountered in this area." Another says "travel not recommended" due to "active drug and human smuggling" routes.

Though warning signs have been placed in certain areas of Arizona, broad swaths of federal land are considered dangerous because of the smuggling routes.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., brought up the signs on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday. Calling for stepped-up border security, he said "the rise of violence and the influence of the drug cartels and the human smugglers" compelled the government to put up the signs.

After the Obama administration met with border-state governors Monday to detail plans to deploy 1,200 National Guard to the region, Brewer told reporters that the influx of more than 500 National Guard troops to her state would not be enough.

Brewer has said she wants 3,000 National Guard troops sent to her state and 6,000 total sent to the border. The Obama administration has also faced criticism for planning to assign the National Guard to surveillance and support positions, as opposed to in-the-field work.

Obama has asked Congress, however, to approve $600 million in new spending for more Border Patrol, immigration officers and drones.
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Obama admits that he can't do the job.
It's too tough for him.

He said he can't secure the borders.

If you can't do the job, step aside.
We don't need an admittedly incompetent president anymore.
We just can't afford it.
 
Tell Nancy that some of that non-governmental savings could be passed along to the worker & it'd be up to said worker to cover their ass. Kinda like it used to be.
 
How did Nancy Pelosi's tortured logic that unemployment creates jobs get into a thread on immigration? :hairbang:
 
crazy harridan from hell

because your "crazy harridan from hell" thread
is in the Kiddie Korner Dumbass
 
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