Arizona bill 1070
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catocom
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You can't prove that won't happen anyway, either, ....
(where it is) it certainly isn't that way Everywhere Now, but some
think it is.
Winky
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Arizona bill 1070 America's last best hope.
you ain't kiddin'
you can pick em out from a country mile
a common experience amongst us Arizonians
an illegal beanner crashes into your car
(seems they can't drive worth beans)
and either speeds off or jumps out and beats feet
ya see...
where as a citizen with a registered vehicle
which has one of them license plate thingies
and has insurance coverage
and has a drivers license
would be a fool to hit and run
an illegal has none of these things and profits from running off
we ain't gonna talk about if they commit other crimes cuz the result is the same
they get away with it!
Deport them suckas NOW!
Oh and Louie help me out here. I was under the mistaken impression
that people that invade Mexico get thrown into a Mexican jail.
Or is that only them folks coming up from the south involved in
that tidy little war you've got on the southern border to match the
drug war on the northern one?
you ain't kiddin'
you can pick em out from a country mile
a common experience amongst us Arizonians
an illegal beanner crashes into your car
(seems they can't drive worth beans)
and either speeds off or jumps out and beats feet
ya see...
where as a citizen with a registered vehicle
which has one of them license plate thingies
and has insurance coverage
and has a drivers license
would be a fool to hit and run
an illegal has none of these things and profits from running off
we ain't gonna talk about if they commit other crimes cuz the result is the same
they get away with it!
Deport them suckas NOW!
Oh and Louie help me out here. I was under the mistaken impression
that people that invade Mexico get thrown into a Mexican jail.
Or is that only them folks coming up from the south involved in
that tidy little war you've got on the southern border to match the
drug war on the northern one?
Winky
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Winky
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Winky
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Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Then enter through the proper channels. Its not rocket science, and, even if it takes time, isn't the end result worth it?
MrBishop
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Still a lottery system. You can go through the efforts and fill in all the paperwork and do it right, and still not get in. My ex in-laws took 3 years for one and 5 for the other. For my current in-laws, it was a work-visa, then a year chasing paper each.
And Canada's fairly easy. A good friend with a strong degree, and a job offer still took close to 2 years to get through and become American..and she wasn't Mexican.
I'll be willing to bet that finding a sponsor in the USA for a Mexican would be...nigh impossible. Work visa you have to prove that no American can fill that position.
Don't make it sound like a rubber-stamp, Gato
ResearchMonkey
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4 years to get a degree, 5 isn't unreasonable to the become a US citizen. After all being a US Citizen is better than any degree.
Why must you insist on the racist remark? Being Mexican is not a hinderence. We don't favor the Scots or the Poles. All must face the same hurdles.
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
I'm not. You are basing your argument on emotion, and not logic.
1 How long does it take to become a naturalized citizen of Canada?
2. What type of emigre does Canada prefer?
3. What happens if the criteria for becoming a Canadian citizen is not met by the person requesting said citizenship?
4. What would the Canadian authorities do if faced with the same situation that the US is facing?
Its all well and good to point at your neighbor and accuse, but your laws and ours aren't much different in that respect.
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Once again you fail to add something to the discussion. Doesn't that get old after a while?
MrBishop
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Three years after permanent residency.
Currently, China holds the lead, with India and the Phillipines following close in the #2 and 3 spots. That's geographical. Economically, the hard sciences, engineering and medicine in the lead, computer sciences a second. After that it's entrepreneurs and skilled workers and then the money. Investors buy their way in. Family in the country trumps much. Sponsorship through a company is a strong assist as well.
Reapplication. Generally, people get exported if they commit a serious crime if they're not naturalized yet. The person can remain in Canada through permanent residency while they reapply. People are selected for permanent citizenship based on skills, education and language skills primarily...there are other factors, of course..including health.
We have a similar situation. 8% of people entering Canada are doing so illegally (you'd be surprised to hear that many Mexicans keep crossing the USA and end up here) another 8% stay off expired visas. When compared to United States, illegal immigration to Canada is less. One can enter Canada either illegally, or as a refugee, citizen, or permanent immigrant. Entering illegally should not be necessary in Canada, because the country has the most liberal immigration and refugee entry laws in the world. We're also in the process and have been for a while, in granting amnesty for illegals..allowing them to continue the legal process while here. Basically..we've got the space, the need the skilled labour and they need citizenship. Open doors lead to a win-win.
Granting work visas and amnesty to illegal immigrants who want to become Americans, live and work there and want to do so above the table wouldn't hurt you. You'd have more people to tax, small businesses would have a larger base of people to hire from and you'd have to spend far less money trying to find illegals and deport them (not to mention that wall) if your immigration policy was more liberal and open.
MrBishop
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Four questions to you:
1) Other than they being in your country illegally, what negative effects do you see from Mexicans living and working in the USA?
2) How can you convince current illegal immigrants to register themselves and join the process towards legal immigration and naturalization?
3) How can you change your system for potential immigrants which would make the legal process easier than the illegal one?
3) How would you find and deport those who choose not to immigrate legally & What do you do with items purchased and owned by illegal immigrants during their stay upon deportation?
1) Other than they being in your country illegally, what negative effects do you see from Mexicans living and working in the USA?
2) How can you convince current illegal immigrants to register themselves and join the process towards legal immigration and naturalization?
3) How can you change your system for potential immigrants which would make the legal process easier than the illegal one?
3) How would you find and deport those who choose not to immigrate legally & What do you do with items purchased and owned by illegal immigrants during their stay upon deportation?
Winky
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1. they are illegal invaders nuff said
2. we couldn't care less cuz
3. it ain't about lettin' every freakin' person on the planet in here and
4. do ya really think they couldn't be thrown out?
do ya think these folks are all free and clear owners of their own McMansions?
Hey if they can take it with em let em just GTFO
Them billions they send back to Mess-co (they got the oil and drugs as national income)
seem to make it over there just fine.
We have chased prolly a hundred thousand or more out of here but they just scurried to other states.
As for solving the issue all we’d have to do is adopt the immigration laws of Mexico.
2. we couldn't care less cuz
3. it ain't about lettin' every freakin' person on the planet in here and
4. do ya really think they couldn't be thrown out?
do ya think these folks are all free and clear owners of their own McMansions?
Hey if they can take it with em let em just GTFO
Them billions they send back to Mess-co (they got the oil and drugs as national income)
seem to make it over there just fine.
We have chased prolly a hundred thousand or more out of here but they just scurried to other states.
As for solving the issue all we’d have to do is adopt the immigration laws of Mexico.
Winky
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think about it
they come here and mooch of our public services
(and if you don’t think they do you are misinformed)
they pledge allegiance to a foreign nation never assimilating
they actually freakin’ vote in our elections
and send all the cash they make back home
Why the Hell would we want to sign up for more of that kinda crap?
they come here and mooch of our public services
(and if you don’t think they do you are misinformed)
they pledge allegiance to a foreign nation never assimilating
they actually freakin’ vote in our elections
and send all the cash they make back home
Why the Hell would we want to sign up for more of that kinda crap?
jimpeel
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Many of out ERs have closed due to the number of illegals who use them and fail to pay. Trauma centers have closed as well. Birthing centers are overwhelmed. When something is "free" the usage goes up and people bring little Juan or Johnnie to the ER when his temperature gets to 101.0 instead of waiting until they can see their GP in the morning.
I can't and neither can anyone else as long as heir activist "leaders" are espousing they come illegally. La Raza, Aztlan, Mecha, et al all want to reclaim the Southwest for Mexico. They intend to do so by occupation. The motto in CA is "Taking back California block by block."
As long as the activists encourage them it will not matter what the process is. The only thing that could encourage them would be to shorten the process and reduce the fees. Those will not work as long as there is such a wide disparity in the value of the Peso and the Dollar. Mexicans send billions of dollars to Mexico every year and the influx of American dollars is the number 2 source of income to Mexico.
We also need to stop with the freebies we hand out. I cashier at Wal-Mart and every day I have non-English speaking Latin persons come through my line and buy groceries with an EBT card. Our claims for perishables spikes at the beginning of every month when EBT users of all races and stripes come in, over shop, and abandon the merchandise on the shelves or at the register.
If it is free it will be overused. It would be nice if they would abandon the 5# bag of rice, which we can return to the shelf, instead of the steaks, pork, and chicken, which ends up at the renderer that would be one very large improvement. Unfortunately, they do not see the downside cost to the store of their actions because they have nothing of themselves in the goods. It is free as far as they are concerned so what's the difference if it goes to waste instead of feeding a family?
Follow the tenets of the federal and AZ laws. If they are found, deport them; but deportation is futile when we have people like the guy in WA state who was deported three weeks ago and is already back in WA state changed with the murder of his girlfriend.
As for their property, if they can have it shipped to Mexico then that should be their bill. They all know legal immigrants, naturalized citizens, and citizens of Latin heritage who can help them with their property. It is not like they only hang around with and know other illegal immigrants.
2minkey
bootlicker
this isn't a congressional debate. get a sense of humor and, for the love of jebus, just put me on ignore, okay big boy?