As if this wasn't bad enough

MrBishop

MrBishop

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Turkey's forces massing on the border or Iraq.

Best bets...Turks don't like Kurds.

Another Target of Opportunity for the Turks?
 
I don't think we'll let them get away with it...It seems to be the biggest roadblock in accepting their offer of airspace.
 
I don't see how they can stop it from happening. The coalition is busy right now...what to do? Start a war on two fronts?

I know that the Pentagon said that they could pull somethng like that off..but...
 
We are now, officially, allowed to use Turkey airspace & I bet the 101st will be dropped in quite soon.
 
It's not so much that they don't like kurds. It's they don't want a flood of refugies. Jordan's not letting any through either. I can't blame them. Let the bastards in and they leach off you and won't leave. It's like having thousands of in-laws visiting.
 
Them why are they opposed to a seperate Kurdish country? I don't know much about that so the question isn't facetious.
 
Why are the isralies opposed to a paletinian country. Same reason. It gives them a powerbase. And say what you want, kurds with a powerbase are as bad as anyone else in that region. Right now they're the poor pathetic victims. Give them half a chance, and they'll victimize someone else just as quick.
 
Isreal is opposed to a Palestenian country because the Israelis are living in it....they'd have to pull up their houses and Kibbutz's and move out. Palestine is/was a country until Israel annexed it, no? (see invaded)...illegally, might I add.
 
The Kurds want their own country so they can avoid oppression by both sides of the border...in the same way as the Eta want a seperate country for the Basques (somewhere between france and spain), because they face oppression.
 
Thank you MrBishop. Thats exactly why the Palestinians are angry. They were forced to pack up and leave their homes.
 
Squiggy said:
Thank you MrBishop. Thats exactly why the Palestinians are angry. They were forced to pack up and leave their homes.
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I think it's more that they were invaded and persecuted and now live in what can best be described as house arrest in their own country. It's the Isrealites that don't want to back up and leave well enough alone. Give Palestine back to the Palestinians ...
 
Gonz said:
Them why are they opposed to a seperate Kurdish country? I don't know much about that so the question isn't facetious.
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that's the main reason they entered north iraq: they are afraid that most Kurds who were living over there will get over to Turkey and take advantage of the unstable situation in the area to try and seperate themselves from the rest of Turkey; something they've wanted for quite some time already.
 
Preventative Invasion? Kill off the Kurds before they can run to Turkey and unstabalize it?

It's still an invasion and it's still genocide.:headbang:
 
:rolleyes:


they are using their military force merely as a way to keep things a bit quiet over there...
they're not killing, nor planned to kill any Kurds, just trying to prevent the occasion to occur that the Kurds will try to get independant from Turkey.


think first, then reply.
 
They should've stopped at teh border then, no? Close the border to prevent Kurds from entering...that's not what they've done tho' They amassed tanks on the border and then...crossed the border, thus invading Iraq. They're not rushing to Baghdad to usurp Saddam...they're using chaos to hide their own agendas.

Guns don't kill people...tanks do.
 
so, why is it exactly that they aren't allowed to do so? because the US and GB are invading iraq as well?
they are being there, trying to keep things quiet at the border. yeah, they've crossed the border. so what?

positive thing: at least it'll make it a lot harder for iraqi soldiers to flee to turkey as well.
and where did you get the crazy idea that the turks are slaughtering the kurds over there? i didn't hear about any genocide from their side.


please, do enlighten me.
 
Sorry GF, if I sound glib on this...but I cannot believe that a country that has been accused of doing horrible things to it's neighbors would use an opportunity like this to merely block a border and maybe grab a few miles of land while it was at it.

I feel that they have more in mind than merely stretching their own borders.

Re: Genocide....CNN can't be everywhere. :)
 
first of all: that link is from january 1996...we're talking about march 2003 here.
what 'might' happen is always a bit difficult to use as an arguement...speculating isn't exactly accurate, especially not in these kind of times.

and of course turkey would like a piece of Iraq....imagine having a few extra oil fields...that would definately benefit the bad economical situation over there.
but they won't. the public outcry would be huge.

now, for your last comment..."cnn can't be everywhere"

true. but if you believe everything that is shown and said on cnn, i'm not going to start any discussion with you anymore.
cnn has been sucking up with the US government since the war begun. it's not objective anymore, and hasn't been for quite some while.
 
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