Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniques

Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

I believe the expression is, "I'd rather be hung for a sheep as a lamb"
Obviously he expects the "the ends justify the means" crowd to appreciate the success of those methods. After all, it's gotta be better to go down as a successful torturer than in incompetent one.
Frankly, I don't see what the big issue is. You liberals give up your constitutional rights daily in the name of safety and security. This is just more of the same.

At last someone really gets it. The Professur admits the guilty parties should be tried for their part in authorizing torture.
The one thing that leaves a question is; "it's gotta be better to go down as a successful torturer than in incompetent one."
In reality, there is no proof any of the methods used to torture were successful. So far, every report and/or example presented by those trying to weasel their way out of this mess has been discredited. But in an effort to make the use of torture acceptable, the right wing continually regurgitates false statements. Take Cheney's daughter, who, in an appearance on Fox cable talk show, backed up her father's story that the use of torture got the information needed to prevent an attack on the tallest building in Los Angeles. Memos and other documentation have verified information re: attack in L.A. was discovered six months prior to the use of torture.

When it comes to giving up constitutional rights, it seems when constitutional rights are given up, it has been by the right wing. All indications are, the left has a greater interest in having the constitution and laws of the land work for all Americans rather than a select few.

Regardless of additional commentary, the Professur says the guilty parties should be hung like sheep, in other words, the laws of the land and international community should be upheld and the guilty must be tried for their crimes. If found guilty and the penalty is hanging, so be it.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

Obama is probably training the terrorist in secret camps and sponsoring future attacks with stimulus money, for fun and profit huh Jim?!?
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

don't forget that he's trying to recruit the children into gay lifestyles as well!
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

So, where did they come up with all these "torture" techniques? Oh yea, from the instructors at the survival schools for the military. They use them on the military students going through the training. How horrible to subject terrorists to such inhumane treatment.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

What if the guy is innocent? I guess it doesn't matter to guys like you does it? I mean what do the rights of some towel headed camel jockey matter anyway?
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

So, where did they come up with all these "torture" techniques? Oh yea, from the instructors at the survival schools for the military.

That would be a silly thing to think considering waterboarding dates back to the Spanish Inquisition.

How horrible to subject terrorists to such inhumane treatment.

What percentage of those waterboarded were convicted terrorists exactly Frodo?

Considering we have convicted and hung Japanese soldiers for the same crime of waterboarding it should be a pretty clear cut issue.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

Give it up spike, they are just A-rabs, they aren't even human! Plus all Muslims are satanists! Don't you know this stuff?
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

That would be a silly thing to think considering waterboarding dates back to the Spanish Inquisition.

Oh, Really?
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...port_accidentally_reveals_sere_instructor.php

What percentage of those waterboarded were convicted terrorists exactly Frodo?

100% Both are well known for their parts in terrorism. What else ya got?

Considering we have convicted and hung Japanese soldiers for the same crime of waterboarding it should be a pretty clear cut issue.

Ya got a link? I'm pretty sure you will find that waterboarding was one of the more kindly things they did.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

Oh, Really?

Yes really, waterboarding dates back to the Spanish Inquisition.


Wrong.

Ya got a link? I'm pretty sure you will find that waterboarding was one of the more kindly things they did.

"History supports McCain's stance on waterboarding


The morning after the CNN/YouTube debate in St. Petersburg, John McCain remained firm in his stand against the use of an interrogation technique called "waterboarding." He cited solid history to buttress his position.

"I forgot to mention last night that following World War II war crime trials were convened. The Japanese were tried and convicted and hung for war crimes committed against American POWs. Among those charges for which they were convicted was waterboarding," he told reporters at a campaign event.

"If the United States is in another conflict ... and we have allowed that kind of torture to be inflicted upon people we hold captive, then there is nothing to prevent that enemy from also torturing American prisoners."

McCain is referencing the Tokyo Trials, officially known as the International Military Tribunal for the Far East. After World War II, an international coalition convened to prosecute Japanese soldiers charged with torture. At the top of the list of techniques was water-based interrogation, known variously then as "water cure," "water torture" and "waterboarding," according to the charging documents. It simulates drowning."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ory-supports-mccains-stance-on-waterboarding/

Oops.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

What clinches the falsity of Thiessen’s claim, however (and that of the memo he cites, and that of an unnamed Central Intelligence Agency spokesman who today seconded Thessen’s argument) is chronology
. In a White House press briefing, Bush’s counterterrorism chief, Frances Fragos Townsend, told reporters that the cell leader was arrested in February 2002, and “at that point, the other members of the cell” (later arrested) “believed that the West Coast plot has been canceled, was not going forward” . A subsequent fact sheet released by the Bush White House states, “In 2002, we broke up a plot by KSM to hijack an airplane and fly it into the tallest building on the West Coast.”

These two statements make clear that however far the plot to attack the Library Tower ever got—an unnamed senior FBI official would later tell the Los Angeles Times that Bush’s characterization of it as a “disrupted plot” was “ludicrous”—that plot was foiled in 2002. But Sheikh Mohammed wasn’t captured until March 2003
.
Don't mind me..just discounting the "Torture saved us from an attack in L.A." argument.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq



.......the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.

Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

After he was subjected to the “waterboard” technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles.
 
Re: Cheney calls for release of all memos related to "enhanced" interrogation techniq

These two statements make clear that however far the plot to attack the Library Tower ever got—an unnamed senior FBI official would later tell the Los Angeles Times that Bush’s characterization of it as a “disrupted plot” was “ludicrous”—that plot was foiled in 2002. But Sheikh Mohammed wasn’t captured until March 2003.

It must suck to be stuck on the side that defends illegal torture and breaches of the Geneva Convention.
 
Back
Top