Cut cut snip cut!! Giving America a Trim

MrBishop said:
..I just quoted it.

No. You mis-quoted it.

T'isn't my job to correct them. It's an interesting extrapolation. I posted it. I posted the link. Point finale.

ROFL. Man, you really should be in politics.


It's a post. Deal with it or ignore it.

I have dealt with it. I pointed out that you were talking out your ass.


Go play 'bait the bear' with someone else, Prof. Consider yourself 'ignored'.


Oooo. The victim play. Yeah, noone saw that coming. Bait the bear? What bear? I only see weasels. You've your usual room upstairs on the right of my list too.
 
[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Here's the full page. I'm guessing that they changed the link that I posted. Fair enough..it's their site. I don't misquote.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Last week, congressional Republicans responded to Hurricane Katrina by proposing to cut nearly a trillion dollars from vital national services, like health care for the poor and elderly, student loans, Amtrak, and eliminating the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (again!).1 Republican leaders in Congress are now gauging the public's response to see if they can get away with their plan. We need to show them the answer is "no."[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]The cost of rebuilding the Gulf Coast, while huge, is far less than what President Bush has given away in tax cuts to the wealthiest one percent.2 National crises like Hurricanes Rita and Katrina are times for all Americans to stick together and put in our fair share.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]So today we're launching an urgent petition to Congress to fully rebuild the Gulf Coast and pay for it by ending Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, not by slashing vital services that Americans need. If we can gather a quarter million signatures this week, we can show them that this destructive plan just won't fly.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Please sign today:[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]http://www.political.moveon.org/rebuild/?id=6043-6271741-UN0uIW9vGw.uPnV6ar5uaQ&t=3[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]The Republican proposal, titled "Operation Offset," was authored by the Republican Study Committee, a group of over 100 influential members of Congress, including powerful committee chairs and members of the Republican leadership.3 The proposal starts with support from at least these 100 representatives, and they are looking to quickly build momentum.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]A full reconstruction of the Gulf Coast region is generally estimated to cost around $200 billion.4 We could more than meet this cost by rolling back Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for just the wealthiest one percent of the country, which would save us an estimated $327 billion.5[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]"Operation Offset," however, calls for an astounding $949 billion dollars in cuts over 10 years to vital national services.6—almost five times the full cost of reconstruction. To further put that in perspective, it's also more than 4 times what we've spent in Iraq.7[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]This plan is not about "offsetting," or rebuilding—it's about exploiting this crisis to push their longstanding goals for America. As conservative movement leader Grover Norquist has often put it, the goal is to get government "down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."8 This proposal is their latest attempt to drown the public sector.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]The excess of the Republicans' proposed cuts is almost unbelievable. You can read the full proposal here:
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[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]http://www.political.moveon.org/images/operation_offset/operation_offset.htm?id=6043-6271741-UN0uIW9vGw.uPnV6ar5uaQ&t=4[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Here are just some of the most egregious cuts:[/font]


  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$225 billion cut from Medicaid, the last-resort health insurance program for the very poor.
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  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$200 billion cut from Medicare, the health care safety net for the elderly and the disabled.
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$25 billion cut from the Centers for Disease Control
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$6.7 billion cut from school lunches for poor children
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$7.5 billion cut from programs to fight global AIDS
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  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$5.5 billion to eliminate all funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$3.6 billion cut to eliminate the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$8.5 billion cut to eliminate all subsidized loans to graduate students.
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$2.5 billion cut from Amtrak
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$2.5 billion to eliminate the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$417 million cut to eliminate the Minority Business Development Agency
    [/font]
  • [font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]$4.8 billion cut to eliminate all funding for the Safe and Drug-Free schools program [/font]
[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]And the list goes on and on.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Which and how many of these cuts move forward in Congress depends largely on the public response this week.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]As the reconstruction begins our country faces a basic question: Will we respond to Katrina by banding together to solve national problems, or by helping the wealthy and powerful cut and run while those left behind fend for ourselves?[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]The radical Republicans have spoken up loud and clear with their answer, and we must respond with ours.[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Please sign today:[/font]

[font=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]http://www.political.moveon.org/rebuild/?id=6043-6271741-UN0uIW9vGw.uPnV6ar5uaQ&t=5
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Could someone Pulllleeeeaaasssssse change the title of this thread ,everytime I read "Cut cut snip cut!! " my knees/legs slam together.
 
unclehobart said:
I'd be triming 10 times as much.
Ditto!
$25 billion cut from the Centers for Disease Control
25 BILLION!!! And we have colds and flus why?

$3.6 billion cut to eliminate the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities
Aw, sounds like a lot more starving artists are actually going to have to convince someone a splotch is art.
$8.5 billion cut to eliminate all subsidized loans to graduate students.
Two words in bold there, only the subsidized are getting cut, which means they will pay a little more interest on the loans. Also, they are for Graduate students, aka Masters Degrees, if they can't afford to pay the loans, there is something wrong.

$2.5 billion cut from Amtrak
Imagine that, closing down public transportation that costs us billions a year.

$2.5 billion to eliminate the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative
For 2.5 Billion a year, we ought to be driving Hydrogen cars, not still researching them.

$5.5 billion to eliminate all funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting
Ever hear of advertising? What a concept, a self paid govt agency...

$4.8 billion cut to eliminate all funding for the Safe and Drug-Free schools program
This one I'm on the border about. On one hand it sounds like a really good program. On the other, it kicks little boys out of school for drawing a picture of a gun.
 
MrBishop said:
Here are just some of the most egregious cuts:

  • $225 billion cut from Medicaid, the last-resort health insurance program for the very poor.
  • $200 billion cut from Medicare, the health care safety net for the elderly and the disabled.
  • $25 billion cut from the Centers for Disease Control
  • $6.7 billion cut from school lunches for poor children
  • $7.5 billion cut from programs to fight global AIDS
  • $5.5 billion to eliminate all funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting
  • $3.6 billion cut to eliminate the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities
  • $8.5 billion cut to eliminate all subsidized loans to graduate students.
  • $2.5 billion cut from Amtrak
  • $2.5 billion to eliminate the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative
  • $417 million cut to eliminate the Minority Business Development Agency
  • $4.8 billion cut to eliminate all funding for the Safe and Drug-Free schools program
A cutting we will go

:beardbng:

Get government out of everything!!!!
 
I am yet to look at the budget so this is an assumption. However, it's an assupmtion that has been repeatedly proven correct.

In Washington DC, at the nations Capital, portions of the budget are considered cut when they don't automatically adjust approximately 5% (for inflation, real or imagined). So the cut still may represent 1 or 2 billion more than last year.
 
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