Define Poor

Poor definately is a state of mind. My family doesn't have a lot of money, and we're in debt (which is worse than being poor, in my opinion), but we have what we need and live somewhat comfortably.

Tell you what, though, I'd take poor over owing The Man anyday. :s
 
poor is not having proper shelter, proper food or proper clothing.

If you have all of those, you are not poor.
 
paul_valaru said:
poor is not having proper shelter, proper food or proper clothing.

If you have all of those, you are not poor.

Allow me to redefine that. ...and not having the resources to maintain such a lifestyle for an extended period of time.

There are some people who currently have a place to live, cheap food on their plates in enough abundance to not get sick, and live fairly close to the salvation army that they can walk over when their third-hand pants wear out again.

There are some that live paychek to paycheck, counting their pennies and their food-stamps and working 3 jobs just to stay afloat. Some might have a tv or an old shitbox of a car to get them to those jobs on time, but the $200 that they borrowed from their folx to pay for it isn't going to go that far.

I've seen 'poor' folk who live in run down trailer homes and manage to own a $40k 4x4 truck, satelite tv dishes on their leaky roofs, and play XboX all night. They made bad financial choices.

I know one guy with 3 kids, who keeps getting fired from his job for being late, who can't afford the $1.75 bus fare to go to a contracted gig giving him $75 cash because he is too lazy to do it. Guy still has a cel-phone, two tvs, each with a game station, has cable-tv, has internet etc... is he poor? Judgement call...I'd say no. Is he ever going to step away from his current conditions? Not likely.
 
Professur said:
My truck's not a 4x4, and I don't own an X-box.

Wasn't talking about you Prof. I was talking about the people that I drive by on my way to the cabin.
Though you should've...ah nevermind. I'm not going to mess with your life. It's yours.

Where was I...oh yes, people other than Prof who live in trailers and own expensive vehicles and/or numerous vehicles (all new) and still claim being poor.
 
Professur said:
And my satelite dish is mounted on a south facing wall, not the roof.

Which reminds me...we still havn't fixed that roof of yours, or the leveling of the trailer. Spring?
 
I was hoping for some warmer winter weather. The ground's too soft in spring, but my jack's frozen solid now. And I'm still trying to get an electrician that won't fall terminally ill the moment I call him. I've put 2 in hospital so far. I'm afraid to call another.
 
Gonz said:
*Proudly waves his working class hand*

:wave: Right there wit'cha. 2 1/2 jobs, several thou in the hole, no cable, no satellite and no friggin Xbox either.

I don't think that you call yourself poor though...neither do I. I'm more lower-middle class, or upper-lower class, mostly because I have a house from when I was making more cash and I can still kinda make the payments...if I don't splurge on takeout or a rented movie.
 
Satelite
Cable internet
3 computers (all homebuilt)
4 TV's
Dolby Digital sound system
PS1, PS2, Nintendo 64
Snow blower
2 cars
stay at home wife
tiny house
a billion dollars on the cards

Middle class (exactly where I feared as a know it all teen)
 
From Gonz's ranking, I think I'm low middle class. :s Which is extremely good for what it could be.


What does define poor? How much you have in terms of NEEDS ... how much you have in terms of expendable cash ... how much you have in terms of not owing any debt ...
 
I'm just hoping I can continue to build on this $5/day jury thing...I'm really optimistic about it..:tardbang:
 
Gonz said:
Satelite
Cable internet
3 computers (all homebuilt)
4 TV's
Dolby Digital sound system
PS1, PS2, Nintendo 64
Snow blower
2 cars
stay at home wife
tiny house
a billion dollars on the cards

Middle class (exactly where I feared as a know it all teen)

I'm not starving anymore, but I'm not exactly making the government salivate at the tax harvest either.

DSL
1 computer, homebuilt
2 TVs, with basic cable
One VCR, one DVD player
Stereo with parts dating back to 1977, 1996, 2000 and 2003 (the receiver is one of the 1977 parts)
Some CDs
Car with no payments unless you coult $83 a month for just the cheapest liability insurance the state allows
One card with around $1000 on it
Digital Camera
One-bedroom apartment with working heat and A/C (but not central A/C)
 
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