Egypt falling?

I wouldn't put $20 on a bet that they know their military leaders any more than we do.
Sure, they're likely to know the names... but how likely are they to know what those leaders were up to since the 25th?

How well do you know Gen. Patraeus? Enough to say that if Obama gave him the Presidency tomorrow that he'd be the right man for the job?
 
MrBishop said:
How well do you know Gen. Patraeus? Enough to say that if Obama gave him the Presidency tomorrow that he'd be the right man for the job?
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Noooo, we don't need him in politics.
IMHO, he needs a brake from Afghanistan right about now, and put another
hard-nose in there.

I'm not hardly familiar with the generals and such.
I'm not in the military, but most of those boys in Egypt did do a stint in that military,
and know quite a few of them, and vice-versa.
 
catocom said:
It's time for us also to quit acting in fear, and act with boldness, and leadership.
The left and some on the right since 9/11 have been playing on fear.
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SOME on the right? please. if they didn't have fear they'd have nothing. muslim terrorists coming to bugger mom! and obama is one of them... :sleep:

catocom said:
on egypt...
of coarse we have to see what develops in the very near future, but
at the right time, really extend a hand to get off on the right foot.
If Obama sits back now, like Carter did, it will be bad.
At the just right time, he realty needs to jump into action with aid or what not.
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what would that right time be? what action should he jump into? please be specific.
 
Bombs falling on Egypt

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catocom said:
I believe soon we will be able to call Egypt a Real friend.
Not just "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
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30 years of general peace & assistance wasn't enough. Now we have to have Sharia too.

MrBishop said:
How well do you know Gen. Patraeus? Enough to say that if Obama gave him the Presidency tomorrow that he'd be the right man for the job?
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Irrelevent. Unlike our Egyptian friends, our society would never allow such a blatant disregard of our Constitution.
 
2minkey said:
SOME on the right? please. if they didn't have fear they'd have nothing. muslim terrorists coming to bugger mom! and obama is one of them... :sleep:



what would that right time be? what action should he jump into? please be specific.
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yeah like the left "never let a good crisis go to waste"...

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The right time? I don't know yet. This just went down in earnest.
The action though would be in a form of aid. What kind and how much
it isn't clear yet, but I'm guessing substantially less that what Mubarak was extorting.
They are still in celebration mode atm. I'm guessing it'll become more clear
in the next 7 days.

Gonz said:
30 years of general peace & assistance wasn't enough. Now we have to have Sharia too.
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nah, I don't see it. I think they want more of like what we have.
Maybe a little different in some way, but I just don't see them buying into Sharia,
when they've tasted freedom now.

I think one of the first things they are going to have to put together is a
real, and proper police force that has the best interest of the respective neighborhoods in mind.

They've got a lot to figure out, but as fast as they moved on this, I think
they can also work pretty fast to get the basic street infrastructure built back.

Yeah I'm and optimist, but the alternative is to go all paranoid like Beck.
I ain't down with that atm.
 
catocom said:
Yeah I'm and optimist, but the alternative is to go all paranoid like Beck.
I ain't down with that atm.
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I haven't a clue what beck has been saying but if this goes south, you better be ready for tensions not seen for 70 years.

It's not fear, its common sense. The world is in fact a dangerous place. Don't be fooled that it isn't.
 
catocom said:
nah, I don't see it. I think they want more of like what we have.
Maybe a little different in some way, but I just don't see them buying into Sharia,
when they've tasted freedom now.
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oh come on cato, let gonz eek out his fearful little fap. all those guys in blue jeans are gonna smash their ipods and turn into osamas bin bumpkins and systematically destroy western civilization with their giant swollen purple mega-dongs. why, them things can take out an abrams tank with one clean vertical flopping motion.

SHARIA MOTHERFUCKING LAW!!!!! NOW BITCHEZ!!!

but seriously i applaud your reasonable stance this issue. you need to take more worry pills to fit in better here.
 
ResearchMonkey said:
I haven't a clue what beck has been saying but if this goes south, you better be ready for tensions not seen for 70 years.

It's not fear, its common sense. The world is in fact a dangerous place. Don't be fooled that it isn't.
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true man. night of the living rednecks can't be far away.
 
Alls well in Egypt, Osambo be praised!

I for one am so relieved that Egypt
peacefully transitioned to democracy
by turning control of the country over to the military!
 
it was a few years between the time we booted the brits and solidified our gubmint. you expect more from a bunch of __________s?
 
2minkey said:
true man. night of the living rednecks can't be far away.
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Have you picked out your lamp post yet?

The kids that you hear about that used technology to bring this up are idealist idiots. They've created a vacumm with "hope and change" as their game plan.
 
well, anyone that uses twitter is an idiot, certainly.

but it's kinda funny to hear you refer to others as idealistic idiots.

"amerika for the amerikans."

GTFO!!!

where's my armband? and how's that chicken tikka masala treating you?

hey i ain't picked out my lamp post. but i done nailed a varmint to a tree in mah front yard.

bounce, ho.
 
In July of last year, the University of Maryland commissioned Zogby to poll the people of Egypt. Here are a few of their findings:
  • 85% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.
  • 87% of Egyptians have no confidence in the U.S.
  • 92% of Egyptians believe the U.S. is one of two nations that is the greatest threat to them (the other nation the Egyptian people hate is Israel)
  • 52% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable opinion of American people
  • 65% of Egyptians believe that Islamic clergy must play a greater role in the Egyptian political system
  • 79% percent of Egyptians believe that it would be positive if Iran is able to acquire nuclear weapons
The Zogby poll results back up a similar project conducted by Pew in April and May of last year. Among Egyptian Muslims polled, 85% felt that Islam’s role in politics was a positive one. In a struggle between modernizers and Islamist fundamentalists, 59% of Egyptians who foresaw such a conflict stated they would side with the Islamists, while only 27% stated that they would side with the modernizers.

Another Pew poll last June revealed that only 17% of Egyptians hold a favorable view of the United States, while 20% hold a favorable view of suicide bombing. Yes dear readers, Egyptians like suicide bombing more than they like you.

Pew also revealed that 82% of Egyptian Muslims support stoning human beings to death for having sex outside of marriage and that 77% of Egyptian Muslims support public whippings and cutting people’s hands off for theft. In addition, a terrifying 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for anyone who has the good sense to leave the religion of Islam.

As much as we may not like Hosni Mubarak, there are many worse people who could be in power in Egypt — and they are very likely to be in power before the end of the year. We would all like to believe that the protesters in the streets of Egypt are all fighting for freedom — but that is not what they say about themselves. By their own admission, they prefer Islamic fundamentalism to modern civilization by more than 2 to 1. They don’t want a modern democracy; they do want to murder people for having sex outside of marriage. They don’t want freedom of religion — in fact 84% of them want to establish the death penalty for it.

What does this sound like? It sounds a whole lot like Iran in 1979. Westerners with common sense should be leaving Egypt as quickly as possible, with no plans to ever return. We would like to hope for the best, but we must plan for the worst.

http://www.fortliberty.org/egyptians-hate-america-and-want-islamic-rule.html
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BuhBye sleeveless western dress.
 
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