Evolution vs Creationism - 79 years ago this week

[MrBishop]

Sherman, set the way-back machine to the week of July 10th to 25th, 1925!

Welcome to the Scopes "Monkey trial", in which a professor of ACLU refused to refrain from teaching evolution (The Butler Law). The butler Law was in force in many of the southern states and several in the bible-belt, forbidding the teaching of evolution to students. Only creationsism could be taught.

The trial lasted 12 days and ended up with Scopes losing, despite some brilliant questioning my Darrow (his lawyer).

"You have given considerable study to the Bible, haven't you, Mr. Bryan?"
"Yes, sir; I have tried to ... But, of course, I have studied it more as I have become older than when I was a boy."
"Do you claim then that everything in the Bible should be literally interpreted?"
"I believe everything in the Bible should be accepted as it is given there ..."
Darrow continued to question Bryan on the actuality of Jonah and the whale, Joshua's making the sun stand still and the Tower of Babel, as Bryan began to have more difficulty answering.
Q: "Do you think the earth was made in six days?"
A: "Not six days of 24 hours ... My impression is they were periods ..."
Q: "Now, if you call those periods, they may have been a very long time?"
A: "They might have been."
Q: "The creation might have been going on for a very long time?"
A: "It might have continued for millions of years ..."

The trap was set, it went off...but the cards were stacked against Darrow. He was not allowed to bring in expert witnesses, fellow scholars etc...

Despite a loss of $100 in fines, Scope lost the battle but won the war. There are still a few hold-out states which insist on teaching creationism exclusivly, but far less that after that fateful day.

Funny...how one man can chenge the world, eh?

Time to go home Herman.
Yes, Mr.Peabody

 

[Gato_Solo]

Sherman, set the way-back machine to the week of July 10th to 25th, 1925!

Welcome to the Scopes "Monkey trial", in which a professor of ACLU refused to refrain from teaching evolution (The Butler Law). The butler Law was in force in many of the southern states and several in the bible-belt, forbidding the teaching of evolution to students. Only creationsism could be taught.

The trial lasted 12 days and ended up with Scopes losing, despite some brilliant questioning my Darrow (his lawyer).


The trap was set, it went off...but the cards were stacked against Darrow. He was not allowed to bring in expert witnesses, fellow scholars etc...

Despite a loss of $100 in fines, Scope lost the battle but won the war. There are still a few hold-out states which insist on teaching creationism exclusivly, but far less that after that fateful day.

Funny...how one man can chenge the world, eh?

Time to go home Herman.
Yes, Mr.Peabody

Your pic will be lost on quite a few folks here, but I got it.

 

[Leslie]

*watches as the board asplodes*

 

[rrfield]

I took a class in college, COAS E104 - Evolution, Religion and Society. Sounds cool, right? Some good debate, interesting religious and scientific lectures, right? Well, the lecture was interesting however the discussion section made the RW forum here look like a campfire sing-a-long...the "debates" turned into petty name calling and absolute refusal to listen to the other side. Disgusting.

 

[MrBishop]

Your pic will be lost on quite a few folks here, but I got it.

Damn....I must be getting old. I keep forgetting that a lot of the members on here don't even recognize a Bullwinkle accent, much less know who or what the hell Bullwinkle is

 

[MrBishop]

I took a class in college, COAS E104 - Evolution, Religion and Society. Sounds cool, right? Some good debate, interesting religious and scientific lectures, right? Well, the lecture was interesting however the discussion section made the RW forum here look like a campfire sing-a-long...the "debates" turned into petty name calling and absolute refusal to listen to the other side. Disgusting.

I felt the same way when I accidentally signed up for a 'women's studies' course in University. Being the only man in the class made for some interesting arguments, lemme tell you. As some point, we wasted an entire class because I wanted to make a comment and the teacher wouldn't let me speak...'because I was a man and men couldn't possibly understand womyn.

Religion is one of those topics as well. Because it's based on faith..any counter arguments are also attempts to rock someone else's faith.

 

[rrfield]

Damn....I must be getting old. I keep forgetting that a lot of the members on here don't even recognize a Bullwinkle accent, much less know who or what the hell Bullwinkle is

Bullwinkle's is a gay bar here in town

 

[catocom]

Damn....I must be getting old. I keep forgetting that a lot of the members on here don't even recognize a Bullwinkle accent, much less know who or what the hell Bullwinkle is

*raises hand*
*Horschack voice* ooh ooh, I know, Mr. Cott-ttaar.

 

[Gonz]

One of the reaseons we have the warning about personal attacks right on the front door. I go out of my way to fight censorship in the RW but without something so coy as that warning imagine how truly ugly it could get in here.

Thoughts should always be open to ridicule & derision. It makes one understand where they stand & why. Beliefs need to be examined, reexamined, torn apart & spat upon regularly. Even if not admitted publically on the open board I bet almost everybody here has had something that was taken for granted with friends & colleagues, someting you never thought you'd question & it was reevaluated due to arguments you've seen here. We are some good arguing mofo's.

Bish, go back to that college, bitchslap that c**t that wouldn't allow you to speak & explain to here that if what she says is true she may not be able to speak of childbirth if she's not done it, nor may she speak of the male mindset because she isn't one. Tell her she can't be anti-war unless she's actively participated in a front line firefight on a battlefield.

 

[MrBishop]

Bish, go back to that college, bitchslap that c**t that wouldn't allow you to speak & explain to here that if what she says is true she may not be able to speak of childbirth if she's not done it, nor may she speak of the male mindset because she isn't one. Tell her she can't be anti-war unless she's actively participated in a front line firefight on a battlefield.

I held my own...it took the whole class, but by the next class...not only was I allowed to state my opinions, I actually had some members of the class backing me up. As I remember, I took her to the floor with "If you, as a feminist argue that women's opinions have been repressed by men, and that is the reason why you won't allow me to express my opinions...you are no better than the men you so despise." - or something to that effect.

Feminism should be about gaining equality. You don't need to overbalance the scales in the other direction first, anymore than white people need to become slaves for 100 years before racial equality happens.

She was a lucidiot

 

[Inkara1]

Feminism should be about gaining equality. You don't need to overbalance the scales in the other direction first, anymore than white people need to become slaves for 100 years before racial equality happens.

Hear, hear!