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Oh yeah?!? Well my guy TRUMPS your little pathetic Mr. Obvious!

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That's CAPTAIN Obvious, you simpleton. He didn't go to superhero school to be called Mr.
 
Actually, I spotted my slip immediately after posting it, but just couldn`t be arsed to change it. This thread is so full of shit, what's one more turd.
 
Environmentalists wanted to change the ruling so that they could control factors which were completely outside of the polar bear environs. They suffered a major defeat with Obama retaining the Bush ruling.

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Report: Obama to Stick With Bush Administration Polar Bear Rule
The Interior Department is letting stand a Bush administration regulation limiting protections for polar bears from global warming, The Associated Press reported.


FOXNews.com

Friday, May 08, 2009

WASHINGTON -- The Interior Department is letting stand a Bush administration regulation that limits protection of polar bears from global warming, three people familiar with the decision told The Associated Press.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar will announce on Friday that he will not rescind the Bush rule, although Congress gave him authority to do so. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to pre-empt the secretary's announcement.

A year ago, the iconic polar bear was declared a threatened species because global warming is causing a severe decline in Arctic sea ice, the bear's habitat. But the Bush administration rules limit that protection, saying no action outside the Arctic region could be considered a threat to the bear under the law.

Environmentalists have strongly opposed the rule as have many members of Congress. They argued the limits violate the Endangered Species Act because the release of greenhouse gases from power plants, factories and cars indirectly threaten the bear's survival.

In March, federal lawmakers authorized Salazar to scrap the Bush regulation without going through a long regulatory process. The deadline for such action was Saturday, 60 days after Congress acted.

Salazar was expected to say that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will further study the limitations established by the "special rule" issued by the Bush administration in March 2008 when the bear was officially declared a threatened specie because of the reduction in Arctic sea ice, which is the bear's habitat.

But business groups and their supporters in Congress have argued strongly that the Endangered Species Act is the improper vehicle for addressing climate change and that there are other ways to deal with the global environmental issue.

Congress is trying to craft broad legislation that would limit greenhouse gases and, separately, the Environmental Protection Agency has begun a lengthy regulatory process that could lead to heat-trapping emissions being controlled under the federal Clean Air Act. Last month, the EPA declared carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels and other greenhouse gases a danger to public health.

But after the polar bear was declared threatened in March 2008, and brought under the protection of the Endangered Species Act because of climate change, environmentalists hoped they could use the species law to force broader nationwide limits of greenhouse gases.

The Bush special rule for the polar bear "significantly undercuts protections for the polar bear by omitting global warming pollution as a factor in the polar bear's risk of extinction," said Jane Kochersperger, a spokeswoman for Greenpeace, which delivered 80,000 petitions to the Interior Department after they were collected by the two environmental groups.

On Thursday, Rep. Doc Hastings of Washington, the ranking Republican on the House Natural Resources Committee, urged Salazar to keep the Bush rule in place.

"This reaches far beyond the scope of polar bears in the Arctic and could put jobs and economic activity across the entire nation at risk," said Hastings.
 
Can it be???
US govt hydrogen highway runs out of road

Obama administration to yank funding

By Alun Taylor • Get more from this author

11th May 2009 09:33 GMT

Leccy Tech The Hydrogen Highway has just become a B road. The Obama administration has announced that the Federal government's $1.2bn (£788m/€880m) plan to develop hydrogen fuel-cell powered cars and infrastructure is to end.

Energy Secretary Steven Chu said the government preferred to target more immediate energy-saving solutions and so funding was “moving away from vehicular hydrogen fuel-cells to technologies with more immediate promise” – read plug-in electric vehicles of one form or another.

Next year's budget will see $68.2m (£44.8m/€50m) spent on fuel-cell technologies, down from $169m (£111m/€124m) last year. The savings come from the cancellation of funds for vehicles development, though the Department of Energy will continue to pay for research into stationary fuel-cells that could be used for non-automotive purposes.

To put the money spent on hydrogen fuel-cell research into some sort of context, the 2010 Federal budget includes spending of $2bn (£1.3bn/€1.47bn) on advanced battery manufacturing, $400m (£263m/€293m) on transport electrification, and $786.5m (£517m/€577m) on biomass and biorefinery system R&D.

The original hydrogen plan was announced by then President Bush in 2003 and, to date, the US government has spent around $500m (£328m/€367m) on the project. There's not much to show for it other than some Honda FCX Claritys and Chevrolet Equinoxes running around California, and 70-odd hydrogen filling stations nationwide.

Not so much a case of hydrogen tech being put on the back burner but rather being wrapped in cling film and shoved to the rear of the freezer. ®

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Holy shit! Is it possible that we have a politician who understands that if it can't be made cost effective it isn't a solution?
 
hmmmm mister literalist, people only have one birthday.

What I said was:

Lenin's birth day was two years before Arbor Day and his birthday has occurred every year since.

Get the difference?

You obviously didn't.

Re-read the post and note the formatting of the words "birth day" and "birthday". Keep doing that until you finally get it.

Perhaps if I changed it to:

Lenin's birth date was two years before Arbor Day and his birthday has occurred every year since.

Там, теперь, то более лучшее?
 
I know what you meant to say, but what you actually said is wrong. All energy on Earth derives from Hydrogen. Solar fusion, that is. There is no better solution than that. Yet.

um, wasn't he talking about specific applications of hydrogen, not the mystical forces of the universe?

ummm, carbon, it's the source of all life. let's burn the motherfucker!
 
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Think twice about 'green' transport, say scientists
Jun 7 08:45 PM US/Eastern

You worry a lot about the environment and do everything you can to reduce your carbon footprint -- the emissions of greenhouse gases that drive dangerous climate change.

So you always prefer to take the train or the bus rather than a plane, and avoid using a car whenever you can, faithful to the belief that this inflicts less harm to the planet.

Well, there could be a nasty surprise in store for you, for taking public transport may not be as green as you automatically think, says a new US study.

Its authors point out an array of factors that are often unknown to the public.

These are hidden or displaced emissions that ramp up the simple "tailpipe" tally, which is based on how much carbon is spewed out by the fossil fuels used to make a trip.

Environmental engineers Mikhail Chester and Arpad Horvath at the University of California at Davis say that when these costs are included, a more complex and challenging picture emerges.

In some circumstances, for instance, it could be more eco-friendly to drive into a city -- even in an SUV, the bete noire of green groups -- rather than take a suburban train. It depends on seat occupancy and the underlying carbon cost of the mode of transport.

"We are encouraging people to look at not the average ranking of modes, because there is a different basket of configurations that determine the outcome," Chester told AFP in a phone interview.

"There's no overall solution that's the same all the time."

The pair give an example of how the use of oil, gas or coal to generate electricity to power trains can skew the picture.

Boston has a metro system with high energy efficiency. The trouble is, 82 percent of the energy to drive it comes from dirty fossil fuels.

By comparison, San Francisco's local railway is less energy-efficient than Boston's. But it turns out to be rather greener, as only 49 percent of the electricity is derived from fossils.

The paper points out that the "tailpipe" quotient does not include emissions that come from building transport infrastructure -- railways, airport terminals, roads and so on -- nor the emissions that come from maintaining this infrastructure over its operational lifetime.

These often-unacknowledged factors add substantially to the global-warming burden.

In fact, they add 63 percent to the "tailpipe" emissions of a car, 31 percent to those of a plane, and 55 percent to those of a train.

And another big variable that may be overlooked in green thinking is seat occupancy.

A saloon (sedan) car or even an 4x4 that is fully occupied may be responsible for less greenhouse gas per kilometer travelled per person than a suburban train that is a quarter full, the researchers calculate.

"Government policy has historically relied on energy and emission analysis of automobiles, buses, trains and aircraft at their tailpipe, ignoring vehicle production and maintenance, infrastructure provision and fuel production requirements to support these modes," they say.

So getting a complete view of the ultimate environmental cost of the type of transport, over its entire lifespan, should help decision-makers to make smarter investments.

For travelling distances up to, say, 1,000 kilometres (600 miles), "we can ask questions as to whether it's better to invest in a long-distance railway, improving the air corridor or boosting car occupancy," said Chester.

The paper appears in Environmental Research Letters, a publication of Britain's Institute of Physics.

The calculations are based on US technology and lifestyles.

It used 2005 models of the Toyota Camry saloon, Chevrolet Trailblazer SUV and Ford F-150 to calibrate automobile performance; the light transit systems in the San Francisco Bay Area and Boston as the models for the metro and commuter lines; and the Embraer 145, Boeing 737 and Boeing 747 as the benchmarks for short-, medium- and long-haul aircraft.

Copyright AFP 2008
 
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