Gun control eh? What about this?

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Bow-and-arrow hunter kills man trying to steal his car[/siz]

A would-be car thief died today after he was shot by the car's owner, a camouflage-clad hunter toting a bow and arrow, police said.

The thief was moments from a clean getaway when the hunter happened upon his car, police said. The man told the hunter he had a gun and threatened to kill him, said Sgt. T.E. Kiser of the Harris County Sheriff's Department homicide division.

The hunter drew his bow and shot at the man, hitting him in the hip and buttocks area.
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Thats very impressive. I mean, the thief did threaten to kill the man, and he simply shot him.

No charges had been filed Friday evening. Kiser said the case would likely be referred to a grand jury.
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Great. Keep it that way.

What do you guys think? This is Texas btw.
 
I'd shoot someone if they were trying to steal my car. The guys not a hero, but he did what he had to do.
 
I heard that earlier this week. Texas is one of the only states where you can use deadly force against someone stealing your property. Bravo.
 
Property takes money to obain. Earning money takes time from your life to obtain. In a sence, they're stealing more than just tangible property.
 
Must not have been a very good shot though, through the hip? I'd make it a chest shot myself.
 
A hip shot could potentially drop you faster if it breaks the right bones. Not to mention that big arttery in that area.
 
Good point. My bet is he was trying to pin his sack to the car or something. Guy must have turned.
 
Mhh....it's just a freakin' car.

Too bad the justice system is too fucked up to put those guys away behind bars for a long time. Then there would be no need to shoot the bastard, just beat the crap out of him and turn him over to the cops.

But if he threatens you with a gun, well, then it's basically just self-defence. Would done the same thing perhaps. But not if the guy just tried to steal my car.

A persons life is more valuable to me than a car, Even if that guy is some freaking car thief. But the threatening changes the story...
 
How convenient that the robber said he had a gun huh? Now it's self defense and not murder. I'd like to know if he actually had a gun or pulled it on him...

I followed the link and found the article in the list but it won't come up when I click on the link.
 
greenfreak said:
How convenient that the robber said he had a gun huh? Now it's self defense and not murder. I'd like to know if he actually had a gun or pulled it on him...

I followed the link and found the article in the list but it won't come up when I click on the link.
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If he threatens you with a gun it counts as having a gun in my book. Its a stupid thing to say and will get you killed.
 
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there's a good chance he never said that, and the guy who shot him might have made that up to increase his chances of getting off. Who's going to be able to say what the robber said or didn't say? No one.

Can you tell me if there's any other information about whether there was a gun on the robber? I can't read the article.
 
greenfreak said:
I'm saying there's a good chance he never said that
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So now the person that was stolen from and attacked is the liar and bad guy?

and the guy who shot him might have made that up to increase his chances of getting off.
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With me it will increase your chances of dying faster.

Who's going to be able to say what the robber said or didn't say? No one.
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I'm inclined to believe the person that was the victim. If you can steal, you can probably spun a lie.

Can you tell me if there's any other information about whether there was a gun on the robber? I can't read the article.
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Hm it appears to be taken offline. Odd... I will try in a few hours again.
 
Shadowfax said:
Mhh....it's just a freakin' car.

Too bad the justice system is too fucked up to put those guys away behind bars for a long time. Then there would be no need to shoot the bastard, just beat the crap out of him and turn him over to the cops.

But if he threatens you with a gun, well, then it's basically just self-defence. Would done the same thing perhaps. But not if the guy just tried to steal my car.

A persons life is more valuable to me than a car, Even if that guy is some freaking car thief. But the threatening changes the story...
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Yeah, I agree Shadowfax. Better to put the guy away for a while like he deserves than to kill him. On a side note, how do you kill someone by shooting them in the buttocks? I mean, even if it did sever the artery it would still take him a while to bleed to death. If that's the case then the hunter just sat there and watched him die, which isn't cool.
 
Shadowfax said:
Mhh....it's just a freakin' car.


A persons life is more valuable to me than a car...
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A person's life is more valuable to me too. A thief's life in not. I'm a big follower of the idea that rights belong to the civilized. Not to the criminals. They gave up their rights when they violated someone else's.
 
Professur said:
Shadowfax said:
Mhh....it's just a freakin' car.


A persons life is more valuable to me than a car...
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A person's life is more valuable to me too. A thief's life in not. I'm a big follower of the idea that rights belong to the civilized. Not to the criminals. They gave up their rights when they violated someone else's.
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I agree!! With Professur!! ;)
 
LastLegionary said:
greenfreak said:
I'm saying there's a good chance he never said that
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So now the person that was stolen from and attacked is the liar and bad guy?
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He was attacked by the robber before he shot him with the arrow? I didn't know that. Stop overreacting and putting words in my mouth, please. And yes, it's possible that he did make that part up so that it looked like self defense. Can you at least admit that it's possible? You're not even considering that this guy has any fault at all, like he's a great guy for doing what he did. At least consdier other possibilities.

and the guy who shot him might have made that up to increase his chances of getting off.

....With me it will increase your chances of dying faster.
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You still don't get what I'm trying to say. Let's supposed this guy came back from hunting and reacted to this guy stealing his car quickly by shooting him with the arrow. If he aimed for his midsection, I don't think he was trying to kill him, just stop him. Now let's say that the robber doesn't say a word and dies instead. The hunter guy is thinking, "Oh shit, I could get fucked for this!!" and decides that his best chance at not going to jail is to claim it was self defense. Got what I mean?

Who's going to be able to say what the robber said or didn't say? No one.

.....I'm inclined to believe the person that was the victim. If you can steal, you can probably spun a lie.
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I really need to see that whole article because the quotes you posted don't say anything about who said what about having the gun, whether it was the hunter or the robber.

A few months back, we were inclined to believe that that woman was beaten by that guy in the truck and held captive. Turned out there were quite a few inconsistancies with her story... I'm done with believing everything that I read. I'd be inclined to think the person who was doing the illegal action was wrong too but it's pretty convenient if the hunter says he was acting in self defense now that he killed the robber.
 
I mean, even if it did sever the artery it would still take him a while to bleed to death
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If you severe the right artery, it will take less than 20 minutes to die from it. It takes longer than that for the cops to get there.
 
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