Here's your F**king all about oil war

flavio said:
Now what's this about the Peace Corps?
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Peace Corps

Go help your fellow man. Since it's apparent you won't become a Marine, this is a good way to understand what a wonderful country you live in & how the rest of the world deosn't hate us & could use our help. Sometimes that includes bombing & soldiers.
 
i dont know that it proves its not all about oil jsut that some people dont lose their humanitarian side. i think oil is a major part of it but there are some other points too such as history(anyone remember desert storm and the original bush, money, power.
 
Hey now, the peace corps is for lefty libs Gonz. Do you really wanna encourage that ;) You could create an army of them. Imagine the protests we'd have then. Save the rain forrests, save the whales, outlaw the the internal combustion engine (Al would be proud), etc etc... Be careful what you wish for...
 
* would like to save the rain forest & the whales & the internal combustion engine can be replaced :D
 
I don't think its too much about oil really, but just like when the guys on the right jump on the bandwagon and claim its about 'liberating' the people, I think those opposed should have a right to use after thoughts like oil as an arguement as well. Its about the economy! Its about that the way the economy is, and that presidents don't get second terms when they are like this. Its about the fact a 'war hero' presidents can sometimes squeak by even in a weak economy. Its about diversion, its about changing the news from unemployment, double dip recession, layoffs, and no end in sight to the economic worries, to something else, anything else. Just like when ol' Billy lit up those asprin factories in Sudan when Monica was in the media. You know what, I think we need to further restrict term limits. That would change EVERYTHING. ONE TERM thats it! Give em one 6 year term and kick em out. That would eliminate this need to do drastic and irrational things in an attempt to get reelected!

As I have said before, its about reelection plain and simple! There are some issues on the side, and no one can dismiss the benefits to the vice pres in this matter, but its not the primary issue. Just like 'liberating people' almost certainly couldn't be under any twisted argument one could possibly come up with. It's secondary, if even that! We know its not about WMDs, we know its not about 'liberating people' so what's left? If it was about WMDs we'd have went to NK first, if it was about "liberating" people there are dozens of other places we could go. But Americans don't like Arabs, especially after 9/11. So lets capitalize on this, and go to war with some Arabs. Nobody like Saddam, lets go to war with him, everyone knows we can find a hundred reasons to justify it. Thats the thought process, and thats why we are where we are today!
 
RD_151 said:
We know its not about WMDs,
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Who is we? That is in the top three on my list.

RD_151 said:
we know its not about 'liberating people'
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That's an added benefit. Reason for the war? No. One of many, probably.

RD_151 said:
we'd have when to NK first,
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He's not an immediate threat.

RD_151 said:
there are dozens of other places we could go.
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Gotta start somewhere. Why not here?

RD_151 said:
Americans don't like Arabs,
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Speak for yourself. One of my better friends is a Muslim Iraqi. We don't dislike Arabs. We hate the radical muslim sect that has decided to declare war on the US.
 
* would like to save the rain forest & the whales & the internal combustion engine can be replaced
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I agree completely. The only thing I might add, is that it is unlikely that the government will subsidize alternate energy vehicles enough to make it worth owning one while there are oil barons running our country.
 
RD_151 said:
Americans don't like Arabs,
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I'd have to take exception to that as well. My brother is married to a Muslim girl from India, one of the nicest girls and families you could ever meet. I wouldn't give a shit if Saddam was Catholic, if he was doing the things he'd doing, he would have to go. It's not about religon at all.
 
chcr said:
while there are oil barons running our country.
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Just wait until there are water barons. Those guys have an agenda the even Fox Mulder doesn't comprehend.
 
Why were we so worried about racial profiling after the 9/11 incident? Why did Arabs get harrasses so much? Why does almost everyone try to keep linking Iraq to terrorists radicals that took out the trade center? Don't say that's not the case, because it is. The media tries to make the connection implicitly a thousand times a day, or more! And I'm speaking generally. Americans generally have a negative perception of Arab countries and the people who live there. Tell me one we 'like.' Ok, you'll say Turkey, but then do we really? The media demonizes Arab countries, they have for decades! Do you deny this? Therefore, sense there is already a strong opposition to these nations, americans in general don't like Arab nations or people too much. I'm not speaking for Arab Americans, but that was in question as well after 9/11, wasn't it? Remember people attacking them for no reason? Or have we forgotten so quickly?
 
To add oil to the fire of RD_151's post....remeber the Oklahoma bombing? On who's head did the blame initially fall?

Saddam Hussein

Who did it? Some schmuck who has no ties with Iraq.

What did we learn? Americans blame Arabs before they actually find proof.

How is it applied? American invade Iraq before finding proof.

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I wonder if the soldier in the picture just blew away that kids parents a little bit before picking up the kid.
 
RD_151 said:
But Americans don't like Arabs, especially after 9/11. So lets capitalize on this, and go to war with some Arabs. Nobody like Saddam, lets go to war with him, everyone knows we can find a hundred reasons to justify it. Thats the thought process, and thats why we are where we are today!
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to an extent thats true but not all americans hate Muslims. hell one of my closest friends here at school is Muslim and hes been one the greatest people ive ever known.
and not everyone is buying into the media.






and flav it is possible he did but not necessarily probable. not all soliders will attack civilians but some will. or it could have been a misfire
 
Yeah, or it could have been they were brandishing weapons against our troops too. Yep, Flav, it's a war. People die. Even parents of small children die.
 
I wonder if that soldier risked his ass getting shot off by the assholes dressed up as civilians who just killed the kid's parents for trying to surrender?
 
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