2minkey
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How is that relevant?
oh, you know, i'm just helping you complete the picture of rampant immorality that you've already gotten a good start on.
feel better about your own choices now? how about your judgments?
How is that relevant?
That is for God to decide.
Out of curiousity minxxx...why are you so Anti-Catholic? Yes, some priests have been freaks who need their nuts cut off & their head (either of them) fed through a tree shredder & some of the beauracracy has had their head up their ass but the church, as a whole, has done a bazillion times more good than evil.
Hey, minks, chew on this:
Source
"Pius XII saved hundreds of thousands of Jews. The Jewish historian Pinchas Lapide thought it might have been as many as 860,000: there were fewer than 1,200 on Oskar Schindler's list. Yet the one individual who did more than anyone else on the planet to help the Jews is reviled: that is a parable of our dementedly anti-Catholic society." - Gerald Warner
Goth is right that there were Catholics (including priests and nuns) who protected Jews during WWII. But Minks is also right that the official policy of the Catholic Church was not to interfere. Many of these Catholics went to the gas chambers (or were executed in other ways) as a result. This includes Saint Maximilian Kolbe, a Polish Franciscan Friar who was sent to Auschwitz in 1941 for (1) hiding 2000 Jews and (2) for his radio broadcasts against the Nazis.hey that's great, especially being from catholic.com and all.
but there's no disputing that the church as a whole, through it's own policy, stood idly by during WWII.
there is conspiracy and evil afoot everywhere except within the catholic church. la la la la la la.
Dude, you're like a clown that keeps using the same bit over and over.While I would never get involved with the Catholic Church, I do offer them respect for what efforts they make. Far greater that any big government, socialist or communist, has ever done.
That's Ms. Hammers. Thank you.It's contrast for religion hating commie goo-kids. But tanks for noticing Mrs Hammers.
So you’ll get your answer once you are dead?
oh, you know, i'm just helping you complete the picture of rampant immorality that you've already gotten a good start on.
feel better about your own choices now? how about your judgments?
the desire to be led is the true root of fascism.
the church has done some truly ridiculous stuff over the years. selling indulgences? what a crock of shit.
the idea that any institution is infallible is, well, quite simply, for suckers.
being critical of the church does not mean someone is anti-catholic, just like being critical of the US government does not mean that you are anti-american.
gotholic has embraced a fairly extreme form of catholicism that i personally find distasteful, but that's his choice.
Goth is right that there were Catholics (including priests and nuns) who protected Jews during WWII. But Minks is also right that the official policy of the Catholic Church was not to interfere. Many of these Catholics went to the gas chambers (or were executed in other ways) as a result. This includes Saint Maximilian Kolbe, a Polish Franciscan Friar who was sent to Auschwitz in 1941 for (1) hiding 2000 Jews and (2) for his radio broadcasts against the Nazis.
This is an article about his life, and his death in the concentration camp.
However, this does not exempt the Catholic Church from scrutiny for it's protection of the Church and it's sacrifice of these children (because it WAS a sacrifice).
Anyone here read anything about the various Inquisitions of Europe? (Not just the Spanish Inquisition.)
As far as I know, I do not see a problem of having a female friend of yours spend the night. Unless of course you have a ménage à trois going on.
I wonder how you deduced that from me saying it is God who knows who is better than others.
The Church never approved of selling indulgences. Those who did sell them were acting contrary to the Church's regulations. Cardinal Cajetan (Tommaso de Vio, 1469-1534) wrote about the problem: "Preachers act in the name of the Church so long as they teach the doctrines of Christ and the Church; but if they teach, guided by their own minds and arbitrariness of will, things of which they are ignorant, they cannot pass as representatives of the Church; it need not be wondered that they go astray."
You have a poor understanding on what the Church deems infallible.
Your anti-Catholic sentiment is quite clearly manifested in your comments, especially calling the Catholic Church "the molester church".
There is Catholic and there is non-Catholic. If you consider Catholicism an extremist religion then that your perception.
Can you substantiate it was official Church policy not to interfere? I think it is appropriate to put Cardinal Cajetan's quote here for you as well: "Preachers act in the name of the Church so long as they teach the doctrines of Christ and the Church; but if they teach, guided by their own minds and arbitrariness of will, things of which they are ignorant, they cannot pass as representatives of the Church; it need not be wondered that they go astray."
I have. What do you think the Inquisitions demonstrate?
the church has done some truly ridiculous stuff over the years. selling indulgences? what a crock of shit.
the idea that any institution is infallible is, well, quite simply, for suckers.
you should be mad at the church given how soft the last pope was on socialism, gonzie. you should be condemning 'em left and right.
being critical of the church does not mean someone is anti-catholic,
The crux of the question...no, sir, it doesn't. However, you seem to be hell bent to denigrate them (in my persepctive). I was just curious if it is/was personal.
Not funny enough or offensive enough. B+ for effort.pretend i'm RM for a moment here.
because you're using god to try to make yourself into something.
sorry buddy, but i'll believe the history books rather than an apologist.The Church never approved of selling indulgences. Those who did sell them were acting contrary to the Church's regulations. Cardinal Cajetan (Tommaso de Vio, 1469-1534) wrote about the problem: "Preachers act in the name of the Church so long as they teach the doctrines of Christ and the Church; but if they teach, guided by their own minds and arbitrariness of will, things of which they are ignorant, they cannot pass as representatives of the Church; it need not be wondered that they go astray."
well why i don't i give myself a little refreshed course and then get back to you, professor?
calling things as they are does not mean anti-catholic. "the molester church" is an entertaining phrase, and in this case, it is well deserved. just because you're incapable of critique does not make any of the rest of us "haters."
look it the fuck up. i don't understand why you can't find it yourself. it's all over the bloody internets.
a floundering institution striking fear into the hearts of folks and killing to retain power. you can readily link various inquisitions to other events that began to erode church power. and no, i'm not doing your homework for you.
1.No, minks, I am nothing.
2. The cardinal is saying those who sell indulgences are acting not in accordance with the Church. If you believe they were acting with what the Church permitted than can you cite anything that demonstrates this?
3. Before you do, remember not to confuse "infallibility" with "impeccability".
4. It is not constructive criticism. I suppose you consider Islam a terrorist religion?
5. You introduced your assertion on the subject of indulgence. You are obliged to furnish proof, not I.
6. I asked val that question.