How wacky can the "save the Earth" crowd get? Read on ...

BlurOfSerenity said:
agreed on both points!
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See what happens when I block people? I had no idea spike responded to this.

I've read and reread and I can't see where jim is making such "illogical generalizations". He posted an article or blog or whatever .. *he* didn't say "every lipo doctor" does this, nor did he say "every patient" wants their fat to go to fuel. In fact, he didn't say much of anything except post the article.

The only thing I'd agree with spike on is that it's kinda creepy. :shrug:
 
Exactly, he made up some group called the "save the earth crowd" and then tried to make a sweeping generalization about "them" all being wacky because this particular doctor had some unusual idea.
 
He didn't make them up, they did. There are numerous names but the message is still clear.

As for sweeping generalizations....they are usually are correct. There may be a thousand individual exceptions but, as a group description, they're close enough.
 
Actually you're wrong. The only info I'm seeing on any group called "save the earth" is a couple blogger sites and there is no mention of this doctor being affiliated with any such group.

Sweeping generalizations are idiotic and usually don't even accurately describe the majority of the people in the groups they are aimed at. They are illogical ridiculous tools used by people who are only capable of thinking in simplistic terms.

But then you probably think the all people in West Virginia have sex with their relatives right? Or as a group description it's close enough. :rolleyes:
 
Gonz said:
He didn't make them up, they did. There are numerous names but the message is still clear.

As for sweeping generalizations....they are usually are correct. There may be a thousand individual exceptions but, as a group description, they're close enough.
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Its useless to argue with him. He takes a general description of all of the "save the Earth" types -- ELF, Greenpeace, WWF, et al -- and says I made up a group -- like ELF, Greenpeace, WWF, et al -- when what I was doing was lumping all of the "save the Earth" types -- like ELF, Greenpeace, WWF, et al -- into a common agenda driven entity. There is no "group" called the "save the Earth" types. He merely feigns ignorance.

He did the same thing with the term "enviros" which is a commonly used slang term for "environmentalists". I just don't want to type out "environmentalists" when the term "enviros" is universally understood by 99.9999999999999999% of the Earth's population; the remaining .0000000000000001% being Spike.
 
jimpeel said:
Its useless to argue with him. He takes a general description of all of the "save the Earth" types -- ELF, Greenpeace, WWF, et al -- and says I made up a group -- like ELF, Greenpeace, WWF, et al -- when what I was doing was lumping all of the "save the Earth" types -- like ELF, Greenpeace, WWF, et al -- into a common agenda driven entity. There is no "group" called the "save the Earth" types. He merely feigns ignorance.
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Exactly you illogically lumpeed a bunch of people into a group you made up to make an illogical generalization about all them based on the actions of one doctor who does not represent any of them. There's not even any indication in the article that he is a member of ANY of them.

Utterly useless attempt at making a ridiculous generalition.



He did the same thing with the term "enviros" which is a commonly used slang term for "environmentalists". I just don't want to type out "environmentalists" when the term "enviros" is universally understood by 99.9999999999999999% of the Earth's population; the remaining .0000000000000001% being Spike.
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Of course you made a similar blunder with that one. Trying to lump some unknown mass of people into the term "enviros" or "environmentalists" and then attempting to make illogical generalizations about the entire group.

When you make silly things like "The enviros claim that oil pollution is permanent and devastating" you are attempting to say that all "enviros" or "environmentalists" made that claim.

Do you have something to back up that statement? or at least showing that some huge percentage of all "environmentalists" have made that claim?

I'm going to assume fior you benefit that you heard at least one person who cared about the environment make that claim. But then you're simplistic thinking led you to classify them as an "enviro" and then make the unfortunate leap into thinking that all people who care about the environment made that same claim.

Maybe you're just feigning ignorance.
 
jimpeel said:
I just don't want to type out "environmentalists" when the term "enviros" is universally understood by 99.9999999999999999% of the Earth's population; the remaining .0000000000000001% being Spike.
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Eco-terrorists is still my favorite.

Enviromentalists, or conservationists, don't spike tres or burn Hum-Vees.
 
randomJACKASS said:
Never thought for a minute that it would...

I bet other folks get it, whether they agree with your points or not though....
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Saying you are wrong and proving you are wrong are two different things.

I have proven you wrong on several occasions and you are only at your sixteenth post since joining the board. You don't even know the difference between a depressant (Morphine) and an analgesic (Heroin) -- or you are simply too lazy to look it up.

The best you can come up with in response is a cartoon sig line.

Perhaps you will enjoy mine.
 
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