Is this murder?

PuterTutor said:
I'm pro death, in fact, I'm thinking seriously about going to my senator to see about post natal abortions. Only up to the age of 16 or so.
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Actually, I think most kids should be locked away from the rest of society between the ages of 11 and 18 or until they become reasonable thinking human beings, which in some cases might be never - with a bit of luck!. :D
 
I don't take those pictures as anything more than they are, dead babies, meant to shock and disturb. What really disturbs me is the type of person that would COLLECT pictures of dead babies to put up on a website.
 
Why would you be an insensitive jerk? I posted the link not to cut anyone down but to make people think about the reality of the subject.
 
PT, if you can accept that those against abortion must respect your right to come to your own conclusions on the matter, then you must also accept that there are people who really and truly believe that this is murder. They're not driven by hate, but filled with sorrow and horror. To many of these people this is the equivolent of infants being slaughtered. In which case they see these as desperate times and desperate times call for desperate measures. Would it have been better if no pictures had ever been taken of the holocaust? However right the pro-choice side thinks it may be, they must also accept that the other side might also be correct. If anyone is absolutely convinced that this is nothing more than dead tissue then it shouldn't be that disturbing.
But for those who aren't sure, atleast let them understand the reality of the situation.
 
HeXp£Øi± said:
PT, if you can accept that those against abortion must respect your right to come to your own conclusions on the matter, then you must also accept that there are people who really and truly believe that this is murder.
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I personally would be totally against being involved with an abortion. However, I don't feel comfortable telling others what decision they need to make.

So even though I'm against it for the most part I have to be pro-choice.
 
I'm also not one to tell others what decision they need to make. However amongst those who wish to seriously weigh this debate in their minds i do wish to share my perspective as well as receive as much input as possible. I've been pro-choice for much of my life, but i don't take issue with those who have pregnancy complications. That's an entirely different scenario imo. I do however take issue with anyone using abortion as birth control. I tend to agree with president clintons statement that abortion should be safe, legal & rare. However this is not the case. It is legal, and it might even be safe but it certainly isn't rare. Many pro-choice people/groups say they have this same belief yet refuse to do anything to prevent the massive quantities of abortions. They claim that their fear is that any move in the opposite direction is a step closer to banning abortion. There has to be some middle ground here. Why can't we admit that yes, maybe this is an actual life we're taking and take steps to educate & prevent people from using abortion as a form of birth control? Can't we be against abortion and keep it legal? I'm against porn but i certainly don't wish to outlaw it. I just wish people weren't so black & white on some of these issues.
 
Well said, Hex...I feel pretty much the same. I don't like seeing it used so frivilously as a form of birth control. But I don't want to see it banned either...
 
I'd be very surprised. Hell i'd be surprised if those judges even get in with as much as the democrats are fighting it.
 
If Roe v. Wade was overturned do you think someone would make a website with pics of all the coat-hanger abortions and women's torn up insides that would result?
 
I'm all for abortion as a form of birth control. Provided the entire uterus is removed as a result.

Abortions for solid medical reasons like Aunty's don't even warrant discussion. The mother's life must come first. But abortions to save the mother's lifestyle??? No God damn way. There are easier, cheaper, safer ways of birthcontrol. I just today saw a contraceptive film. Inserted into the vagina, it disolves in seconds and protects as well as a diaphram.

She want's an abortion, give it to her, by she doesn't get the chance to make the same mistake ever again.
 
it's interesting to see how easily people think about abortion nowadays...
i support abortion, under certain circumstances, like when it can save the mothers life, or when the woman got pregnant as a result of rape, or something similiar.
but what people often forget is that it's not an easy choice to make, even if you support abortion. the decision doesn't come lightly.
of course i haven't got anything to do with abortions personally, but i do know a person quite close to me who did have an abortion. and that wasn't an easy decision, nor was the procedure quite pleasant.

so that's something to consider as well, a person just doesn't walk into a hospital and says "i'd like to have an abortion please" just like that.


one last thing. i've read about the things the nazi's did during WW2 when it comes to planned parenthood. but that can't be entirely related to what is going on today.
the motives of the nazi's were quite different than those of today. nowadays people don't want abortions to improve the human race, and rule out the weaker ones. they don't have abortions because their kid isn't going to be an Arian.
and those were the main motives of the nazi's on this. so it's a nice comparison to get a lot of emotional reactions, but looking at the facts it's quite weak.
 
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