kerry's version of swiftboatvet.

The truth is "hidden" in the Kerry quotes. He said two different things. FLIP FLOP...
 
I suppose if you're victim of the leftist media news-washing you prolly can't see the pattern.

Funny when Kerry is haveing problems that the Clintonistas come out of the wood-werk(Begalia, Sassy cajun Boy etc.) Now there is a three-prong attack on Bush and all 3 times there has been serious alegiations of fraudlent information.

Kitty's book saying Bush did coke at Camp David has been denied by the supposed source of the information. alas Kitty has a 'impecable witness' that is anonymous. :lol2:

Barnes (quack) that said he used his position as Lt Gov to get Bush a position in the AGN did'nt become Lt. Gov until the next year after Bush was in. His own Daughter said her das lying about it.

Dan Rather comes out with forged documents on 60 minutes and it turns out they are a fraud.

Its been 30 days since Kerry has answered questions to the media. he only addresses what he wants and takes no questions about what he says.


Yeah if you buy into the what the major media has to say I can understand why you're confused.
 
ResearchMonkey said:
I suppose if you're victim of the leftist media news-washing you prolly can't see the pattern.

Funny when Kerry is haveing problems that the Clintonistas come out of the wood-werk(Begalia, Sassy cajun Boy etc.) Now there is a three-prong attack on Bush and all 3 times there has been serious alegiations of fraudlent information.

Kitty's book saying Bush did coke at Camp David has been denied by the supposed source of the information. alas Kitty has a 'impecable witness' that is anonymous. :lol2:

Barnes (quack) that said he used his position as Lt Gov to get Bush a position in the AGN did'nt become Lt. Gov until the next year after Bush was in. His own Daughter said her das lying about it.

Dan Rather comes out with forged documents on 60 minutes and it turns out they are a fraud.

Its been 30 days since Kerry has answered questions to the media. he only addresses what he wants and takes no questions about what he says.


Yeah if you buy into the what the major media has to say I can understand why you're confused.
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Victim of media? are you the pot or the kettle today?
 
paul_valaru said:
Victim of media? are you the pot or the kettle today?
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purty witty there aren't ya, how much pot have you smoked this month?

Yes a victim! have you ever read the communist manifesto, control the media and and the education and you control the world. Well those days are ending.

You buy the propaganda that comes thru the media, (when are you goinmg to get Fox news in canada?) the bias is unbelievable and yet you buy alot of it.

Rather got busted by the internet, it has been happening more often these days.
 
ResearchMonkey said:
purty witty there aren't ya, how much pot have you smoked this month?

Yes a victim! have you ever read the communist manifesto, control the media and and the education and you control the world. Well those days are ending.

You buy the propaganda that comes thru the media, (when are you goinmg to get Fox news in canada?) the bias is unbelievable and yet you buy alot of it.

Rather got busted by the internet, it has been happening more often these days.
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you are entitled to your opinion, but in the end that is all it is. You continue pushing your own agenda like a pitbull worrying a bone, yet all I get it trying to win by volume, and "shocke and awe".

How much pot have I smoked? not enough for this.
 
Kerry's swiftboat has keeled over. Since he is having such a hell of a time running his presidential campaign, how can anyone think he could possibly run a country?


:swing:

Bush Haters Sink ... Kerry

Is Bush-hating costing the Democrats an otherwise winnable election? This week’s news has been dominated by two huge anti-Bush attacks, one by CBS on the president’s National Guard service record, the other by NBC, which announced three back-to-back interviews on the “Today” program with Kitty Kelly--in which she would broadcast to the nation her pre-publicized stories about George W. Bush’s alleged cocaine use.

These devastating charges set the Bush-haters into a spasm of anticipatory delight--for about 24 hours. That’s how long it took for both of them to be exposed as utter hoaxes.

By now every reader of NRO knows that the documents on which CBS relied were almost certainly forgeries--and crude forgeries at that.

Meanwhile, a word about Kitty Kelly. According to her, the current President Bush snorted coke at Camp David during his father’s presidency. Now if somebody produced a claim that Bush experimented with cocaine in 1974 or 1975, before his 30th birthday and his marriage, before his break with alcohol and his religious conversion, I’d say that the charge was very unlikely, but maybe not absolutely impossible. But to say that he did it at Camp David between 1989 and 1993, when he was in his mid-40s, married, in the midst of his greatest business success, and on the verge of running for the governorship of Texas--a time when all his friends attest that he had quit drinking and was engaged in regular and intense Bible study--well that’s kind of nuts isn’t it?

Add to this that Kelly’s putative source is Sharon Bush, ex-wife of his brother Neil, whom Kelly interviewed over a single lunch--at which it seems Kelly did not take notes. (They seem to have been reconstructed later.)

Sharon Bush now says that Kelly misquoted her, which is easy enough to believe. But even if Kelly quoted her accurately, how would Sharon Bush know? Are we supposed to believe that the president was such a reckless drug addict that this ambitious, successful, middle-aged, married, churchgoing man would snort coke...within sight of his sister-in-law? Isn’t that kind of super-nuts?

Even the producers at NBC will have to think so. I have a hunch that we are soon going to hear that the Kelly interviews have been cancelled. Meanwhile, to go back to my very first question--the week that the Bush-haters have used on these two rapidly discredited stories happened to be the week that the thousandth American soldier died in Iraq. Any White House would have to dread a milestone like that. It could have been a big and dangerous news story for the incumbent president--that is, if his enemies had not buried it by deluging the country with two lurid and immediately retracted hoaxes.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary091004.asp
 
paul_valaru said:
you are entitled to your opinion, but in the end that is all it is. You continue pushing your own agenda like a pitbull worrying a bone, yet all I get it trying to win by volume, and "shocke and awe".
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You need to look the history of teh media and if you look objectively you can clearly see the control that the media has over the masses. They haave had a monopoly for too long and now the internet lessens that control.
 
ResearchMonkey said:
You need to look the history of teh media and if you look objectively you can clearly see the control that the media has over the masses. They haave had a monopoly for too long and now the internet lessens that control.
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yes the media is biased, no arguements but for every show with a leftist aganda, there is one with a rightist agenda.

and people are the ones writing on the internet, so it doesn't lesson control by providing honesty, it just provides more biased view points.
 
yes the media is biased, no arguements but for every show with a leftist aganda, there is one with a rightist agenda.
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Really? Where? And are they masquerading as straight news (other than sometimes Fox)?
 
HomeLAN said:
Really? Where? And are they masquerading as straight news (other than sometimes Fox)?
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name it, everyone has an agenda.

PBS shows BBC CNN TNN everyone is biased one way or another, some is more overt than others but it's human nature to add your spin to it.
 
Hating America
Friday, July 09, 2004
By Bill O'Reilly

As you may know, the FOX News Channel is not allowed in Canada, but CNN is. Fair and balanced? You decide
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125165,00.html

We don't get Fox up here...

What Paul meant is the whole media (including radio, newspapers, web-sites, TV etc.)
and I think that we can probably find a left-wing show for every right-wing show out there. Some more radical than others. That's media for you.

If there's an audience for it...it'll exist and thrive.
 
While I'll entertain the idea that every show might have a bios, I think it's silly to think that there's an even number of right versus left wing. Down here, at least, it's ALL left.

That makes it tough for a right winger to truly be seduced by the media. It's more likely that his beliefs persist IN SPITE of the media.
 
HomeLAN said:
While I'll entertain the idea that every show might have a bios, I think it's silly to think that there's an even number of right versus left wing. Down here, at least, it's ALL left.

That makes it tough for a right winger to truly be seduced by the media. It's more likely that his beliefs persist IN SPITE of the media.
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ALL LEFT???

maybe it's cause when you are watching the right wing ones your going "hey that is right!"
 
I have to strongly agree with HL here.
Minute for minute, c-span maybe the most unbiased, but Fox does seem to
try to present both sides, and that's about it for the "right". :(
 
paul_valaru said:
ALL LEFT???

maybe it's cause when you are watching the right wing ones your going "hey that is right!"
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Maybe, but I seriously doubt it. I'm able to detect the few times there's a right slant on something like Foxnews, so I don't think your argument here holds a hell of a lot of water.

I don't know how things stand in Canada, but down here, an extreme list to the left is the norm for news outlets.
 
HomeLAN said:
Maybe, but I seriously doubt it. I'm able to detect the few times there's a right slant on something like Foxnews, so I don't think your argument here holds a hell of a lot of water.

I don't know how things stand in Canada, but down here, an extreme list to the left is the norm for news outlets.
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maybe but in another state, might be all right.

who is left who is right, I forgot, it's friday afternoon, and my body craves beer
 
Let me spell it out for you.

The left is the mainstream media, which includes but is not limited to ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC(is there a pattern?) NY Times, LA Times, Washington Post, NPR, ABC/CBS/NBC news outlets.

The Right includes and is limited to FoxNews, The Washington Times & the Wall Street Journal. The non-news sources that we'll add to the right is Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh & that one chick on about 40 markets.

Since Limbaugh took AM by storm some 16 years ago, saying what the people believed the left has slowly been losing their communist stranglehold on the media. With homeschoolers taking back education in America, ther left is falling apart.

The truth shall set you free.
 
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