Lauded or loathed?

no, it's a pretty real difference in classification. one can vote. one can't. trying to lump them is simply wrong.

but if you're into "they're all the same" ways of thinking, that's fine.

how is it there in the NAVY? yeah, army, navy, whatever, all those guys are the same.
 
2minkey said:
no, it's a pretty real difference in classification. one can vote. one can't. trying to lump them is simply wrong.

but if you're into "they're all the same" ways of thinking, that's fine.

how is it there in the NAVY? yeah, army, navy, whatever, all those guys are the same.
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1. The term is MILITARY.
2. I never said they were all the same. Naturalized citizen...Immigrant...
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15329781/

California GOP wants candidate's withdrawal
County Republican Chairman Scott Baugh, however, said that after speaking with state investigators and the company that distributed the mailer, he believes Nguyen had direct knowledge of the letter. He told the AP that the party’s executive committee voted unanimously to Nguyen to drop out of race against Democratic U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez
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Why would he send them to Spanish Democrats? Mexicans I can see. :shrug:

LA doesn't have a huge problem with a Vietnamese La Raza or a general Vietnamese illegal immigrant problem.
 
Gonz said:
Why would he send them to Spanish Democrats? Mexicans I can see. :shrug:

LA doesn't have a huge problem with a Vietnamese La Raza or a general Vietnamese illegal immigrant problem.
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Okay smartguy spanish speaking and seeing as Nguyen is Vietnamese I'm sure they have Vietnamese immigrants (whom according to the letter makes it appear its illegal for them to vote)


The letter, written in Spanish, tells recipients:"You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."
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And since I know you are going to bring this up again.

Gonz said:
What's wrong with that?

Immigrants don't vote. Citizens do.
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im·mi·grant Pronunciation (m-grnt)
n.
1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
2. A plant or animal that establishes itself in an area where it previously did not exist.
adj.
Of or relating to immigrants or the act of immigrating.




noun 1. immigrant immigrant - a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there
migrant, migrator - traveler who moves from one region or country to another



The Governor of California is an Immigrant (1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.) that letter would infer he isn't allowed to vote.One does not simply stop being an immigrant when they receive citizenship.
 
A.B.Normal said:
And since I know you are going to bring this up again.





im·mi·grant Pronunciation (m-grnt)
n.
1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
2. A plant or animal that establishes itself in an area where it previously did not exist.
adj.
Of or relating to immigrants or the act of immigrating.




noun 1. immigrant immigrant - a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there
migrant, migrator - traveler who moves from one region or country to another



The Governor of California is an Immigrant (1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.) that letter would infer he isn't allowed to vote.One does not simply stop being an immigrant when they receive citizenship.
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Stop trying to introduce facts and logic into an argument where minds have already been made up! It's confusing. :lloyd:

Foreign Bastard! ;)
 
rrfield said:
i refuse to believe a poitical group would try to manipulate the population with word games.
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Then why are you trying? :p

Settling permanently in a country does not give you the right to vote there. Becoming a naturalized citizen does. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
 
A.B.Normal said:
im·mi·grant Pronunciation (m-grnt)
n.
1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
2. A plant or animal that establishes itself in an area where it previously did not exist.
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That in no way infers the immigrant asks for nor receives citizenship.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Then why are you trying? :p

Settling permanently in a country does not give you the right to vote there. Becoming a naturalized citizen does. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
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You are still an immigrant once you become a citizen.Whats so hard about that to understand ,so therefore you can be an immigrant and vote .
 
If they intended to frighten Arnold Schwarznegger, they should be kicked in th eass all the way to the unemployment line. If it was a poorly worded reminder, public education failed them.
 
Gonz said:
If they intended to frighten Arnold Schwarznegger, they should be kicked in th eass all the way to the unemployment line. If it was a poorly worded reminder, public education failed them.
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A "reminder" would not have been targeted at one voting group
State and federal officials have been investigating the mailing for possible violations of election or civil rights law. It is illegal to use threats to try to dissuade anyone from voting.

The letter, written in Spanish, was mailed to an estimated 14,000 Democratic voters in Orange County. It warns, "You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,223140,00.html


In fact, immigrants who are adult naturalized citizens are eligible to vote. Secretary of State Bruce McPherson said Friday his office will send letters to homes that received the mailing to clarify voters' rights.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,223140,00.html
 
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