Makes me so mad... yet full of sorrow!

As for stds, clearly, I was NOT including them in my dialogue. However, a few of them have more than likely always been around, but we have not had the tools to diagnose them, nor the know-how to treat them. Didn't a certain mad english king have syphilis? :shrug:
 
I was including STD's, way back where. The full context of the free love movement, while entertaining & satisfying, has done little to further mankind.

As far as teen pregnancies, I suppose finding a seperation between married (shotgun or not) teens & idiotic fantasizers is a bit much.
 
Gonz said:
When sex was dirty there were fewer of all the above stated issues. When sex was dirty kids got better educations because thinking with their dick (or labia) was not permitted & it was especially not endorsed. Somewhere between Truman & Clinton was a happy medium. Everything post Kennedy has gotten worse.
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fairy tales!!

as bop's pointed out... just because something wasn't spoken about does not mean it didn't exist

making sex taboo only keeps kids from talking about it with adults
 
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keep repeating "It's not true & I'll not accept it as true"
 
Seventeen percent of 15-year-old girls were sexually active in 1995, compared to 3% in the 1950s.

Other stats: One million girls aged 15 to 19 get pregnant every year, and 76% of them are unwed. In 1996, the percentage of these unwed teen-age mothers was nearly six times that of 1950.
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Isn't that called animal husbandry? Critters unable to control themselves are given a hand at someone elses cost?
 
brownjenkins said:
all the more reason for free birth control ;)
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All the more reason for self-control.

I don't have time right now to get into it but it's not sex that's the problem, it's the attitude.
 
Gonz said:
All the more reason for self-control.

I don't have time right now to get into it but it's not sex that's the problem, it's the attitude.
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i agree to an extent... i have nothing against changing attitudes, though i think open discussion will do a lot more for it then preaching that 'sex is dirty'

but birth control is for the times when self-control fails... sure, it'd be nice if all kids were perfect little angels, but they're not

and there's still the 3% in the 50s... which btw only represents what people of that time were willing to admit to it... not necessarily the reality

how about a hypothetical (which isn't too far of a stretch to think as possible one day) ~ if there was a method of birth control, say a once a year shot, with no side effects and 100% effectiveness would you be willing to have it given freely to anyone of sexual age?
 
What gastonimical claims? As I recall I'm the one looking for answers.

None of the above.

I prefer teaching biology & allowing the parents to do their job.

in 1949, when condoms weren't allowed in school, the pill was uninvented & morality played an important role in the home & society compared to 1997...

Which had the fewest STD's?
Which had the fewest abortions?
Which had the fewest out of wedlock births?
Which had the fewest adoptions?
Which had the fewest shotgun weddings?
Which had the fewest unwed moms?
Which had the fewest welfare families?
per capita...
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brownjenkins said:
all the more reason for free birth control ;)
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All the more reason for better parenting. Funny how seldom that gets any mention. All thanks to our blame-free society.
 
brownjenkins said:
that said, while i'd like to see sex ed and contraception more available, i wouldn't be against parents 'opting out' for their child... the one who care enough to do that probably don't need it... it's the ones that don't that do

i'd like to see parents do their job to, but i accept the fact that there are many who do not, or who could use a bit of assistance
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:shrug:
 
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