No, there's no Socialist movement going on.

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Nothing to see here at all., there is no movement to change our nation into a a socialist utopia.

According to the DSA -- This list including but not limited to...

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Scribd files

Downloadable file -- DSA-Members-American-So..pdf

.....there is something terribly sick within this nation.

Lets cure this cancer.



 
Now, now, RM, I've been laughed at & scorned for years for seeing what is right in front of our face. You don't need the harassment too.
 
Read some of their manifesto - not 'socialist' leading to communism by any means. More democratic socialism: The support of the idea of equality for all (anti-sexism, anti-racism, etc..) - where power is not controlled exclusively by corporations. A trade union for everyone.

Anti-fascist socialism.
 
Socialist governments worked every time its been tried

1. Abolition of private property.
2. Heavy progressive income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights on inheritance.
4. Confiscation of property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Central bank.
6. Government control of Communications & Transportation.
7. Government ownership of factories and agriculture.
8. Government control of labor.
9. Corporate farms, regional planning.
10. Government control of education.
 
Socialism always ends in a sea of blood.

yeah and Stalin’s workers paradise didn’t lead to starvation for millions either.

Wouldn’t that make you a holocaust denier?
 
Re: Socialist governments worked every time its been tried

1. Abolition of private property.
2. Heavy progressive income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights on inheritance.
4. Confiscation of property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Central bank.
6. Government control of Communications & Transportation.
7. Government ownership of factories and agriculture.
8. Government control of labor.
9. Corporate farms, regional planning.
10. Government control of education.
Yeah, sounds harmless enough.
 
Communiost Goals 1963 (the only way to beat the Unites States is from within)
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.


They've succeeded in most.
 
Re: Socialist governments worked every time its been tried

1. Abolition of private property.
2. Heavy progressive income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights on inheritance.
4. Confiscation of property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Central bank.
6. Government control of Communications & Transportation.
7. Government ownership of factories and agriculture.
8. Government control of labor.
9. Corporate farms, regional planning.
10. Government control of education.

Thatd be COMMUNISM, and not Democratic Socialism
 
Bish, where did you get your rose glasses?

*sigh*

I live in a partially democratic-socialist country. Great place to live, thanks.

Socialized healthcare, education. GVT owned/operated power-generation (Hydro-electric, nuclear, oil, natural gas), etc...

They're not rose-coloured glasses...I see both the positive and negative aspects of our system...unlike the blinders you seem to have on, Gotho.
 
*sigh*

I live in a partially democratic-socialist country. Great place to live, thanks.

Socialized healthcare, education. GVT owned/operated power-generation (Hydro-electric, nuclear, oil, natural gas), etc...

They're not rose-coloured glasses...I see both the positive and negative aspects of our system...unlike the blinders you seem to have on, Gotho.
Great Bishop, it sound like a nice place to live, for you.

Just wait until the greatest nation on earth collapses under the weight of socialism, your country will fall with us.

I certainly hope your borders are open when those fleeing this country want to immigrate to our little buddy in the north, by the millions.
 
Great Bishop, it sound like a nice place to live, for you.

Just wait until the greatest nation on earth collapses under the weight of socialism, your country will fall with us.

I certainly hope your borders are open when those fleeing this country want to immigrate to our little buddy in the north, by the millions.

so if canada collapsed too as yer prophesyin' why would people flee by the millions in that direction? why would they go in the first place if it's the place for bish and not freedom loving heroes like you?

(BTW, my cat first noticed the obvious flaws in your logic. i've designated her to keep an eye on things here because it's descended to such a low level.)

oh right,
you right!
he wrong!
socialism bad!
bad people are bad!
no commies!
and surely no fags!

did you happen to notice that the "original" document you posted is very likely a fake? the bad grammar is the first hint. the fact that a real, original source for that document isn't to be found is another indication.
 
I think that we can handle the millions. Big place, eh.

As for the collapse..I'd say that you have more to worry about than some socialist reforms. Your current lax banking system, lackluster production and exports, overblown import and over-reliance on imported oil will do far more to bring about your country's downfall than the glimmer of socialism can ever dream to do.

Stiffen up Wall Street's rules and regs so that you don't get caught in the next bubble when it bursts.
Stop going to Walmart and shopping for the cheapest - buy local/state/country produced products, even if it hurts the pocketbook.
Stop being such a bitch with countries like Cuba, Brasil, Iran, Venezuela, Columbia, half of Africa and China when it comes to export sanctions - export more without insisting on pax-americana requirements first.
Take more gas-guzzlers off the road, stop burning oil for heat and electricity.
 
Nothing to see here at all., there is no movement to change our nation into a a socialist utopia.

According to the DSA -- This list including but not limited to...
.....there is something terribly sick within this nation.

Lets cure this cancer.



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Attention to all the Republican & Tea Party pundits and bloggers
The information which has been circulated across many blogs was echoed and reshaped be each reader and makes you all look like fools i.e.:

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Quote: The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.

The problem here is the Socialist Party of America does not exist.

The second problem is the newsletter of question/statement also does not exist. Here is the DSA newsletter for the Fall of 2009 and here is the SP-USA's newsletter which never published an October 2009 edition.

The American Socialist Party is not the Socialist Party USA and the Socialist Party of America has not existed since 1973 after it had a three way split.

This page is about the Democratic Socialists of America which is not a party but rather a PAC, political action committee.

The list of 70 names does not belong to any socialist organization. It was quoted from the Progressive Caucus which to any right-winger is too liberal. For socialists it is too liberal in the other direction.

http://www.americansocialistvoter.com/demsocofamerica.htm

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS THE URL QUOTED IN YOUR QUOTE, RM
 
so if canada collapsed too as yer prophesyin' why would people flee by the millions in that direction? why would they go in the first place if it's the place for bish and not freedom loving heroes like you?

(BTW, my cat first noticed the obvious flaws in your logic. i've designated her to keep an eye on things here because it's descended to such a low level.)

oh right,
you right!
he wrong!
socialism bad!
bad people are bad!
no commies!
and surely no fags!

did you happen to notice that the "original" document you posted is very likely a fake? the bad grammar is the first hint. the fact that a real, original source for that document isn't to be found is another indication.
I wasn't thinking Canada would be a good place for Real Freedom Loving Americans, I was thinking it might be nice place for people like you Spike who might enjoy it once violence starts here.

Canada will become the best option for those feel-good utopia fantasy types who want to escape the bloodshed of patriots and tyrants here in the US. --

I was already thinking your cynical cat has been posting for years, my dog has been enjoying your post for a while now.

It's my understanding the document was recently leaked from set of documents by a disgruntled insider. -- You seem to think that socialist must have better grammar and spelt than others might have. On top of that, I don't see much on that dox that isn't reasonable to believe. -- Maybe the press will make some inquiry's on the matter.
 
So its a list of reliable socialist congress critters that are loved and admired by a bunch money raising socialist.

Political Action Committees do not run candidates for office, but act as a base of support for a view point.
Thanks for clearing up that they're still socialist..

Seems there was some confusion on this. Now we know that socialist have grammar and spelt that doesn't hold up to Minxie's, or his cat's, standards.
 
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