Not a good Idea

So why's this going to be a big issue when the election comes around? Republicans and Democrats alike slammed the idea. There might be slightly less than a handful of people running for something in '06 or '08 that were in favor of it.
 
All Democrats were against the port deal for one reason - Bush was for it. 1/2 of Repubs were for it for one reason - Bush was for it. The other 1/2 of Repubs were against it because DP is a middle eastern country.

Sometimes politics is easy.
 
rrfield said:
1/2 of Repubs were for it for one reason - Bush was for it. The other 1/2 of Repubs were against it because DP is a middle eastern country.

Sometimes politics is easy.
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um, the vote was 62-2. :confused:
 
Inkara1 said:
So why's this going to be a big issue when the election comes around? Republicans and Democrats alike slammed the idea. There might be slightly less than a handful of people running for something in '06 or '08 that were in favor of it.
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Because Bush wouldn't get the message, even when the public hit him over the head with it. As he's the party leader, it's going to trickle down. Why do you think the rank-and-file Reps were so pissed? I can't believe he's still bringing the shit up today. You embarrassed yourself. Shut up about it.
 
chcr said:
Some things should be beyond politics.
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Yes they should be, Too bad they aren't.

The reason the republicans were against it...politics. It's an election year, in case anyone forgot. Outside of Bush Doctrine, I still don't see a problem with it. Everybody is preaching security. That would make sense except one problem...these boats are loaded all over the world & brought to us. DPWorld is a paper handler...not a loader.
 
Gonz said:
Yes they should be, Too bad they aren't.

The reason the republicans were against it...politics. It's an election year, in case anyone forgot. Outside of Bush Doctrine, I still don't see a problem with it. Everybody is preaching security. That would make sense except one problem...these boats are loaded all over the world & brought to us. DPWorld is a paper handler...not a loader.
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Ok, so where is the security handled? Not here, when only 2% of the containers are checked.
So they check them before they are loaded, or leave their ports. We are still
depending on their security.
The problem is this fortunately got enough attention now to bring the main
problem into the spotlight. Our port security.

I'm afraid if we don't get as much of these security issues address during
the run-up, they won't ever be done after the 06 election, until it's already too late.
It's too late Now. It should have already been tightened way more, without
us citizens having to sacrifice Our liberties in some areas.
 
2% of INBOUND containers are checked. Does it matter if it's 100%? They'll stop smuggling goods at that point but if there's a dirty bomb (or worse), will it make any differece? BOOM! is still BOOM! Whether in downtown Manhattan or in port, the terror has been accomplished.

In order to stop this there needs to be checks on the loading side & we check 0% of those. Not our country (England, UAE or Chile-etc). The only option is to end inbounds...at which point they'll end outbounds.

Our ports are open borders on the water. What can we do to fix this?
 
Gonz said:
2% of INBOUND containers are checked. Does it matter if it's 100%? They'll stop smuggling goods at that point but if there's a dirty bomb (or worse), will it make any differece? BOOM! is still BOOM! Whether in downtown Manhattan or in port, the terror has been accomplished.

In order to stop this there needs to be checks on the loading side & we check 0% of those. Not our country (England, UAE or Chile-etc). The only option is to end inbounds...at which point they'll end outbounds.

Our ports are open borders on the water. What can we do to fix this?
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Nope, Boom, ain't BOOM.
In the port is bad, but in every major city is "the end".

We need technology in place to x-ray then by the Coast Guard while still at sea, 100%,
as the best option IMO.
But at least a total screen AT the ports to start with.

The countries that Want to do business with us WILL make concessions.
They stand to lose too much not to try and work more with us.
 
catocom said:
Nope, Boom, ain't BOOM.
In the port is bad, but in every major city is "the end".
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If the other ports are anything like the Long Beach/LA ports, it doesn't matter. From the water to civilization is less than a mile. From the water to dense population is less than 2 miles. In the case of the west coast, on shore winds are the norm...blowing any "pollutants" to the people, not from them.
 
Like Herpies....
Looks like there still a problem here. Not sure on the details yet, but
it look like Dubai is talking out both side of their neck. They now say they
will not give up the ports.

Stay tuned....

Starting to look like they are pulling Iran tactics. :alienhuh:
 
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