Officer kills man who beat child to death

Kruz

Kruz

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2minkey said:
you realize this says that things are getting "better" for one's own personal use of violence, right? now you can shoot that fucker in the face, in your living room, without having to scamper back to the laundry room and cower.
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If that "fucker" is in my living room, he gets just that.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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Kruz said:
If that "fucker" is in my living room, he gets just that.
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I live in CO where we have the "Make my day" law. You have to actually wait until they are in your home before you can shoot them; and there is no requirement that the perp be armed. They can be butt naked and you can still shoot them.

One guy shot a perp that was breaking down his door and got in dutch for the guy not actually being in the house. He shot through the door.

The usual preduictions of the anti-firearms nuts did not come true (Well, DUH!) and no "drunk person merely having gotten lost and trying the wrong door" has been shot.

We are also allowed to carry a firearm in our vehicle for "lawful defense while traveling". There is no need to have a CCW to carry concealed in your vehicle.
 
Gato_Solo

Gato_Solo

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2minkey said:
hmm.... "We, as a society, have been, and are being, conditioned towards certain responses to certain stimuli...ie "Violence is wrong regardless of circumstances"


sorry dude, but i'm not buying what pop psychology has to offer. this "social conditioning" crap is a write-off explanation, a cop-out, and in many cases a "blame something/someone else"

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it's not little joey's fault he shot up the school. it's all that video game violence, gang-bangers on the TV, a couple copies of soldier of fortune magazine, and his father's temper and switch that made him what he is.

if only we had nurtured him!
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Never did like my psych prof. Anywho...you can call it pop psychology if you want, but it is happening...much like the fact that we are becoming desensitized to anything outside of our limited scope.
 
Kruz

Kruz

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Update on story

TURLOCK, Calif. —
Police on Monday identified a man who was fatally shot by an officer for allegedly refusing to stop beating a toddler to death along a remote road.

Sergio Casian Aguilar, 27, parked his truck on an unlit road Saturday night, removed a 2-year-old boy from his car seat and proceeded to stomp, kick and punch the boy to death, authorities said. The boy was unrecognizable when he was pronounced dead at Emanuel Medical Center, the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department said.

Authorities have not released the boy's name but say they believe he was Aguilar's son. The Stanislaus County coroner and the California Department of Justice are testing DNA to confirm the relationship.

Several motorists called 911 and tried to stop the beating, authorities said.

Dan Robinson, a local volunteer fire department chief, told The Modesto Bee that at first glance, he thought the child was a dead animal in the road. He said when he realized it was a child, he tried to stop Aguilar.

He said Aguilar had a "total hollowness in his eyes" and talked calmly of the boy being filled with "demons."

Witness Lisa Mota told the San Francisco Chronicle that Aguilar told people who tried to stop him that the boy was "trash."

Responding to 911 calls, a Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department helicopter landed in a dairy pasture near the scene. A Modesto police officer, Jerry Ramar, fatally shot Aguilar after he failed to heed the officer's warning to stop beating the child, authorities said. Aguilar flashed his middle finger at Ramar before Ramar shot him in the forehead, police said.

"I have never seen anything like that before and I hope I never have to again," Ramar said of the beating.

Authorities have not released the name of the boy's mother.

Aguilar had no previous criminal history, police said. Results of toxicology tests on Aguilar are expected in four weeks.

Ramar has been placed on paid administrative leave, a routine response for officer-involved shootings.
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