One planet, one currency, one language, no borders

MrBishop said:
You misunderstand. This lingua-franca wouldn't replace all other languages...just supplement it. You'd still speak Italian in Italy and Créole in Haiti...BUT you'd also know "X". Everyone at least unilingualX, and bilingual would mean X+italian, or french, or japanese etc..
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They tried that. It was called Esperanto, and it failed miserably. Mainly because English was already dominant enough to make it unnecessary. And that was 20-30 years ago.

As for cash cards, we already have cards limited only by the balance of your account. Why would people revert to limited-value cards, other than to restrain their spending? Which would never work anyway..

Currency would have to be the Euro. Especially since it's already got experience in crossing borders. But a global currency would cause major problems for countries not up to the West's standard of living. You couldn't keep on paying those shoemakers in Taipei 10c/hr.
 
a13antichrist said:
They tried that. It was called Esperanto, and it failed miserably. Mainly because English was already dominant enough to make it unnecessary. And that was 20-30 years ago. .
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It rings a few bells, Esperanto that is, but wasn't that a new language? Created by linguists? If, on the other hand, you bolstered an existing (and rapidly spreading language) like English...it might be more succesfull.

a13antichrist said:
As for cash cards, we already have cards limited only by the balance of your account. Why would people revert to limited-value cards, other than to restrain their spending? Which would never work anyway.. .
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I'm trying to replace coins and paper-money with something with more dureability... not limited-value cards. If you wanted to keep 10,000$ on it, that'd be your choice....about as stupid as keeping a roll of $10k in your pockets today, but physically smaller.

a13antichrist said:
Currency would have to be the Euro. Especially since it's already got experience in crossing borders. But a global currency would cause major problems for countries not up to the West's standard of living. You couldn't keep on paying those shoemakers in Taipei 10c/hr.
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Agree 100% - but then again, it'd be an issue for the North American companies who are paying those wages as well. What a shame...Martha Stuart couldn't get away with near-slavery for her sheets anymore. :p It'd be hard for the third world...they'd effectivly be ghettoized in a world-country.
 
I suppose my answer to the original question would be highly dependant on whether or not California was allowed to join in the Utopia. ;)
 
re : one planet

i can't imagine such a place would ever exist and if it did i wouldn't want to live there. whilst the unification of all under one ruling system may work, what system could it be? and then things may never change for the better because no more ideas are being created and attempted in other countries. unless of course you specifically designate certain countries as "trial" countries, where new laws or ideas can be explored, it's kinda strange to think also of the whole planet being under the control of ultimately the one person, cause there is always one person who has the final say, and i'd hate to be that person
 
Re: re : one planet

One currency, one language, one government, no borders etc?

No thanks - not for nothing, but I enjoy being South African and having a unique cultural identity - an identity of being South African to the world and within our own borders yet a more unique identity of being Afrikaans.

From a SA point of view, we have 11 official languages spoken in the country. Each of the languages also come with their very own heritage, from people who have helped shape this country and make it what it is today.

By making one big 'world' as described in your first post I'm afraid the heritage will be lost. Something that is happening to a large extent anyway in the modern world and all the technological advancement.

It is our differences that make us who we are really - the French have a certain way of doing things, their national 'personality' is shaped by the very fact they are not the same as any other nation on this earth. The same goes for every other country.

Might as well dress the world in grey 'cos it will be extremely boring living without borders, speak only one language and pay for everything with one currency.

And btw Bish, if the language was supposed to only supplement the languages already spoken in other countries, what would be the point of having it? If I were Italian and living among people who speak and understand Italian, I for damned sure won't switch to English (or whatever chosen language). I'd still carry on as usual.

The idea of having one type of governance all over is not a bad one. But then again, that is what the world in general is striving for anyway - in principles such as human rights, democracy and freedom from opression.
 
I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't know if it's already been said, but what if the wrong people became leaders? Then what? If we had a worldwide government there would at very least need to be nation states with their own sovereignty, within the larger world government heirarchy.
 
markjs said:
I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't know if it's already been said, but what if the wrong people became leaders? Then what? If we had a worldwide government there would at very least need to be nation states with their own sovereignty, within the larger world government heirarchy.
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Says who? You could say that about every country - require all to have Regional governments as well. But then the same would apply to those regional governements - so you'd need local governments.. etc etc ad infinitum..
 
The governmental system would need to be based upon the US Constitution. Limited powers for the "federal" government. This time it would include more limits & more stringent wording.

I'd much prefer the world citizens evolve to the point of no longer needing governments...I won't hold my breath.

Debit/check cards are already on the verge of creating a cashless society. The problem is, there can no longer be anonymous purchases. Do you have one of those supermarket/grocery store check cashing cards? Ever wonder why they use 'em? Marketing. No anonymous cash purchases would be a marketers wet dream. And you thought cookies were bad.
 
Gonz said:
The governmental system would need to be based upon the US Constitution. Limited powers for the "federal" government. This time it would include more limits & more stringent wording.
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In that case, good luck trying to get anyone except the US & Canada to play along. :rolleyes:
 
Is there a better system that guarantee's personal freedom & limits government interference? This is the best to come along in 10000 years.
 
Gonz said:
Debit/check cards are already on the verge of creating a cashless society. The problem is, there can no longer be anonymous purchases. Do you have one of those supermarket/grocery store check cashing cards? Ever wonder why they use 'em? Marketing. No anonymous cash purchases would be a marketers wet dream. And you thought cookies were bad.
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The world is coming to an end....For once I agree with Gonz. The minute cash becomes obsolete is the minute we've lost too much freedom.
 
A government would most definitely have to be limited in scope. I'd also like to see a 'bill of rights' spelled out in the very beginning. As for currency, the USD can, and is, used in more than the US and Canada. There's also Panama. ;)
 
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