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Squiggy said:
The first was a hand picked US cooperative, the second just reports that the first was reported, and the third is vague to say the least...But then, thats how we got there in the first place. :D

And, AE, The Bushes built Aushwitz for Hitler. Did his money laundering too...Thats how they got so rich. :D
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You cant possibly know the hell that oppressed people go through under leadership like that unless you have lived through it yourself. Have you???

And you shouldnt confuse things that go on in the Buisness sector with the actions of an evil murderous tyrannical dictator. If a banker cashes a check and the customer takes the money and buys a gun to kill someone with, does that implicate the banker from an ethical and or moral stand point? Of course not.
 
Obviously I'm not an Iraqi national, AE. And I don't disagree that Sadam is a very bad man...as is Prince Abdulah and the Saudi royal family. And they are the ones more directly responsible for the attack on 9/11. The Bush's business dealings in SA are whats kept them from suffering the proper counter attack by us.
As for the Bush's ties to Hitler...I think you need to do some reading.
 
Squiggy said:
Obviously I'm not an Iraqi national, AE. And I don't disagree that Sadam is a very bad man...as is Prince Abdulah and the Saudi royal family. And they are the ones more directly responsible for the attack on 9/11. The Bush's business dealings in SA are whats kept them from suffering the proper counter attack by us.
As for the Bush's ties to Hitler...I think you need to do some reading.
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Well your arguments are seriously flawed. I think we should go after SA as well, but obviously we cant be fighting a war in every 3rd war country simultaneously.

Also your other arguement seems to be "well since there were buisness dealings in the past and or with xy & z, then we as a country can not go after this dictator, because we let the other guy go".

This is simply not true. What we should do is go after this dictator, and seriously inquire and analyze about who to go after next.

Your argument would be like going up to a police officer who once smoked a joint and saying "hey, you cant bust this crack head, you smoked a joint once in 72" :confuse2:

lastly, of course buisness plays a part in these decisions. The USA is an economically driven country. Or did you completely miss out on the main reason that the United States is so rich and powerful and can afford to go after people like this in the first place? If would be fullish if economics were not considered.
 
steweygrrrr said:
Can I just stop you there....why does it have to be Americans that die before anyone does anything?
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Um...Stewey...Its in reference to 9/11 and AMERICA'S reasons for going to war....
 
AnomalousEntity said:
Well your arguments are seriously flawed. I think we should go after SA as well, but obviously we cant be fighting a war in every 3rd war country simultaneously.
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So why don't we go after the country guilty of the attack instead of the one who sticks their tongue out at us.

Also your other arguement seems to be "well since there were buisness dealings in the past and or with xy & z, then we as a country can not go after this dictator, because we let the other guy go".
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I've no idea where you pulled that from. I'm INSISTING that we avenge the deaths of 9/11.

This is simply not true. What we should do is go after this dictator, and seriously inquire and analyze about who to go after next.
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So you do want to just march across the world attacking countries?

Your argument would be like going up to a police officer who once smoked a joint and saying "hey, you cant bust this crack head, you smoked a joint once in 72" :confuse2:
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You should maybe show me where I said anything that would support that one, AE. I'll ditto your confuse2 and raise you a confuse3....:confuse3:


lastly, of course buisness plays a part in these decisions. The USA is an economically driven country. Or did you completely miss out on the main reason that the United States is so rich and powerful and can afford to go after people like this in the first place? If would be fullish if economics were not considered.
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BUSINESS has NOTHING to do with a war on terrorism. And apparently you're not paying much attention. This little 'show' of ours has all but destroyed the US economy...effects coming soon to YOUR hometown...
 
Squiggy said:
So you do want to just march across the world attacking countries?

This little 'show' of ours has all but destroyed the US economy...
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Yes we should march across the globe & attack countries that support & assist terrorists. We're already doing it & it's working.

The US economy was falling rapidly when Dubya entered office. Then 9/11 happened. If you look at the numbers today, they are strengthening significantly. There is also a better foundation than Bill Gates new toy for the masses. Greenspan was corect, it was an over-exuberant market, built on hope, not reality. The unemployment figures are a lagging indicator, so they will be the last to show improvement.

One more thing, if you choose to continue on this "the Bush family were nazi supporters", please, always include the Kennedy's. As well as a few other high profile rich families with European ties. Or, preferably, quit blaming the son(s) for the fathers misdeeds.
 
Gonz said:
Yes we should march across the globe & attack countries that support & assist terrorists. We're already doing it & it's working.

The US economy was falling rapidly when Dubya entered office. Then 9/11 happened. If you look at the numbers today, they are strengthening significantly. There is also a better foundation than Bill Gates new toy for the masses. Greenspan was corect, it was an over-exuberant market, built on hope, not reality. The unemployment figures are a lagging indicator, so they will be the last to show improvement.

One more thing, if you choose to continue on this "the Bush family were nazi supporters", please, always include the Kennedy's. As well as a few other high profile rich families with European ties. Or, preferably, quit blaming the son(s) for the fathers misdeeds.
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Ok...That was straight from the majority leaders note pad with a full right twist added...:D And I was merely responding to AE's injection about Aushwitz...I didn't extrapolate it and point fingers...And you forgot to explain the SA connection away...Oh. Thats right. YOU CAN"T :D
 
Squiggy said:
And you forgot to explain the SA connection away...Oh. Thats right. YOU CAN"T
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Nor would I try. They should be on the bomb immediately list AS I'VE SAID FROM THE GET GO :p
 
I think the whole thing last night was simply "This is why we still haven't gotten anything to show you, this is why we're spending all this money, and oh yeah, we're gonna spend a bunch more so you can sleep soundly again"

I'm really starting to think Bush is a weasel. :disgust:
 
PuterTutor said:
I think the whole thing last night was simply "This is why we still haven't gotten anything to show you, this is why we're spending all this money, and oh yeah, we're gonna spend a bunch more so you can sleep soundly again"

I'm really starting to think Bush is a weasel. :disgust:
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im sure there are many others who feel that way PT. some felt that way for a while others are starting to. but from my understanding hes still popular. but I dont like the spending hes doing on military actions.
 
You know, I watched the whole thing, and all I got out of it is that he either 1. has no idea what's really going on (my personal choice) or 2. knows, but thinks the public is so stupid we'll keep buying that which he keeps shoveling. Kind of like the recession that never happened...
 
Thats how hes been since day one. And look at how many chose to believe him. Collectively, we are a stupid lot...:shrug:
 
chcr said:
You know, I watched the whole thing, and all I got out of it is that he either 1. has no idea what's really going on (my personal choice) or 2. knows, but thinks the public is so stupid we'll keep buying that which he keeps shoveling. Kind of like the recession that never happened...
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Are you talking about the recession that started at the end of Bill Clintons reign of stupidity (or immediately after) that Bush inherited and has been slowly but surely shoveling us out of?
 
Gonz said:
Yes we should march across the globe & attack countries that support & assist terrorists. We're already doing it & it's working.

The US economy was falling rapidly when Dubya entered office. Then 9/11 happened. If you look at the numbers today, they are strengthening significantly. There is also a better foundation than Bill Gates new toy for the masses. Greenspan was corect, it was an over-exuberant market, built on hope, not reality. The unemployment figures are a lagging indicator, so they will be the last to show improvement.

One more thing, if you choose to continue on this "the Bush family were nazi supporters", please, always include the Kennedy's. As well as a few other high profile rich families with European ties. Or, preferably, quit blaming the son(s) for the fathers misdeeds.
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Exactly

The analyst were saying that the market was over confident, over priced, top heavy, and a balloon ready to pop way before bush even Announced his presidency. Why? Pretty much ever body knew they wouldnt really be prosecuted for their white collar embezzlement, insider trading, and misreporting under the Clinton Administration.

You want to talk about ties to criminals. We should look at Clinton for a few minutes. How many times was he investigated for illegal whilte collar scandals and how many criminals did he pardon, and where did his campaign money come from?
 
Actually, I'm afraid you're both misinformed. Almost to a man, the economist are proclaiming that the country is in the worst financial situation it has seen since the depression. But keep your heads in the sand because theres nothing much we can do about it now....:shrug:

And terrorism is still punching out headlines everyday...But I'm sure you miss those cuz W said its not happening...:shrug:
 
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