catocom
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when it America, don't piss the romans off.
only a minority do, from all the ones I know and have heard.
Religious priority?
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only a minority do, from all the ones I know and have heard.
spike
New Member
Right there is no basis for sponsoring or favoring one religion over others. That should only mean equality for people of all religions and non-religious folk.
markjs
Banned
There is where your ignorance shows. It is right in the Koran. Obviously you know few, and precious little about them, a very common position for most 'mericans.
Just because many radical Muslims are "bad seeds", and I won't for a minute deny it (and neither will my Boss, who is, where if I have questions about muslims, is always happy to answer and bust through the ignorance that previals in this country, and help me understand), doesn't mean that it's not true.
A guy who firebombs an abortion clinic is every bit the terrorist that a guy who suicide bombs something in the middle east is. The only realy difference being that the muslim had the ultimate faith in his convictiosn to die for them, where the "christian" usually doesn't. All the same, both are terrorits, make no mistake, and both need to be stopped.
I can respect (if not agree with), the peaceful, and legal works pro-life people do, but terorism is terrorism, no matter how you dress it up.
Honestly "christianity" was responsible for the first major campaigns of organized terrorsim, but that is conveniently forgotten.
markjs
Banned
There is no point in bothering to try and explain Muslims to you. Tancredo has made it clear that he feels that their religion makes them inherently prone to terrorism, and you've made it clear that you agree with him on most things. Ignorant people have always feared what they do not understand. I can't change that, so although I will speak my mind, I won't even try to change yours. Enjoy your ignorance, I hear it is bliss....
markjs
Banned
Fine by me....
It never ceases to amaze me that 'mericans, so convinced that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong, that they refuse to even try and understand any other way than their own, are baffled when others in the world hate us.
You don't like being belittled catocom, but you certainly won't hesitate to do so to a Muslim. Then you wonder why he should have a problem with it.....Go figure!
I've said it time and again, that it's not "most of the world" hating us, and of those who do, many do not have legit reason to, but many do, absolutely do!
It never ceases to amaze me that 'mericans, so convinced that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong, that they refuse to even try and understand any other way than their own, are baffled when others in the world hate us.
You don't like being belittled catocom, but you certainly won't hesitate to do so to a Muslim. Then you wonder why he should have a problem with it.....Go figure!
I've said it time and again, that it's not "most of the world" hating us, and of those who do, many do not have legit reason to, but many do, absolutely do!
catocom
Well-Known Member
where do you get that from.
Show me where I've said something you believe to be belittling.
Yes, they are both terrorists. Given your scenario, they both believe enough. The diference is, in one culture, it's commonplace. In the other, it's sacreligious.
Oh, by the way, it's American.
markjs
Banned
OK, perhaps belittling was too harsh, but for you to say this:
only a minority do, from all the ones I know and have heard.
....is simply ignorance. Do you really presume to tell Muslims what they believe?
http://www.islam-101.org/ said:
To me when you tell me what Muslims you "know" believe, when obviously you don't know your head from your ass on the subject is belittling, but that's just my opinion. But if I was to tell you what most Christians believe and I was talking about killing abortion doctors, I imagine you'd be offended.
All I can say is that I actually know a real life Muslim, and am open minded enough to talk to him and ask questions rather than hold erroneous beliefs based on prejudices. My boss is actually one of the finest people I know, and he personally believes that one can find God though Christianity, or Judaism, or Hinduism, or Buddhism. He personally finds it through the Islam faith that his own parents taught him in his native Morocco. The thing about him is he doesn't presume to play god and judge others. He leaves that to god. To my way of thinking he's a better Christian than many I know.
markjs
Banned
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
And a Christian. I think most churches that host AA make note of that...
As to mark's last little barb my way...not worth my trouble to pick out of my skin. Context, junior...context.
catocom
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no I go by what they say, and I'm speaking of Radicals.
I know there are decent Muslims, just as there are decent Christians.
But tell me why was it the the Taliban imprisoned, and even killed that Asian
Christian group.
Radical Anything is what is bad. I don't care way religion, or no religion.
From the Muslims I know, some believe as Muhammad, did according to that, and some don't. I doesn't mean they aren't Muslim, and it doesn't mean
they are radical, but That is the way most Radicals look at it, from what I've seen.
Now about the belittling part, I'm very careful exactly how I word things (like Prof
)and I do ride the line at times within my own ethics, but The BS flag, I knew would probably draw your Ire, so it was in fact provocative, and accomplish
exactly what I expected.
It just happened to be what I've experienced, and have taken from the people
I know. When I stereotype a group, it's because I believe it's the Majority,
not necessarily All, and Not a minority.
I am wrong in some cases, and I'm not above admitting it, I was trying to
light a fire under ya, to hopefully provoke you to look up some stuff, and you did.
Psychology is a powerful thing sometimes...ain't it.
I'll lay off the subject now, and let ya cool down, I'll even admit wrong, if you need more resolution.
Merry Christmas.
markjs
Banned
Radical Anything is what is bad. I don't care way religion, or no religion....
....Merry Christmas.
With those two things I do agree with you catocom. Usually of all the cons here I find you to be among the most sensible and compassionate. I usually feel that your heart is "in the right place", in spite of my disagreement with your politics, but I did recently look into Tancredo and that guy honestly scares me.
This is why:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Tom_Tancredo.htm said:
(Things I see as more important in bold, and critically important in red)
Tell me does nobody else see the pattern here?
catocom
Well-Known Member
what it doesn't say is how many of those isuses are amendments to a more Main bill.
You can't pick and choose issues without looking at the whole bill.
You know how it works there man.
That's why the gov as a whole needs to be revamped.
