RU-486

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Thanks PT, at least somebody has the common decency to read what I write :D
Not so much bored as getting my feet back from being at deaths door for 3 weeks (I've only just begun to turn my back to that portal) and this is such an easy topic to get fired up about.

fury that may have been meant in jest but it is closer to the truth than you can know. Not necessarily the average jane but the political pawns in this war are fucking nuts. Both sides.
 
Leslie said:
this isn't really abortion...

this pill or pill combo
a) inhibits ovulation
failing that, it
b) gums up the fallopian tubes so that the egg can't travel through and become fertilized
failing that, it
c) makes the uterus inhospitable so that any fertilized ovum cannot implant thereby preventing pregnancy from occuring.

there is no abortion of pregnancy in this case, only prevention of such.

If i recall right, that's not the way RU-486 works. From what i've read RU-486 IS an abortive, 'cause it can make an already implanted egg to be released.
 
I've not read that anywhere in the contoversies here, nor ever been told that by any medical personnel here...I guess anything's possible though :shrug:
 
oooooh I've been referring to the morning after pill...not ru 486 precisely, as it's not available here.
 
The morning-after pill and RU-486 are separate things. RU-486 is supposed to be a drug version of a standard abortion (and when it fails you have to run to the office and have a real emergency abortion done).

I just always thought it's interesting how the morning-after pill is advertised as "emergency contraception." Contraception prevents conception. The morning-after pill works after conception, by preventing implantation. Since it doesn't prevent conception, it's not contraception.
 
Inkara1 said:
Contraception prevents conception. The morning-after pill works after conception, by preventing implantation. Since it doesn't prevent conception, it's not contraception.

NO, that's precisely the point that many have made in this thread already - in particular Leslie and I. The Morning-after pill does PRECISELY that - prevent conception. The RU-486 is the one that doesn't, but no-one's calling it conception - they're calling it abortion.
 
Leslie said:
oooooh I've been referring to the morning after pill...not ru 486 precisely, as it's not available here.

I too was referring to the morning after pill. I don't think ru 486 is available here either... I think a woman would have to go through an abortion if that was her choice.

As for adoption, that's OK if you happen to be white, blue eyed, blond.... and a baby.... unfortunately most of the children in this country available for adoption are not. Many are disabled or so traumatised by years of parental negligence and abuse or years "in care" by the time the social workers release them for adoption that they present serious problems to inexperienced adoptive parents... hence why foreign adoptions are so popular.
 
I think you got your roots mixed Inkara, anti-conception means it prevents conception, and contra-conception means it "destroys" conception.
 
Could be a little language barrier Luis. In English, contraceptive means "prevents" pregnancy. The birth control pill prevents pregnancy from occuring...therefore it's referred to as an oral contraceptive. A condom is called a prophalactic, which I believe means "preventitive". We don't really use the word anti in reference to conception, but I think it may translate more accurately in Spanish.

Being pro choice myself.....ru486 would definately be acceptable in my birth control arsenal, if the need ever arose.
 
You do not....

...it is NOT some kinda secret code for wankin' :D ....ya know...
 
As for my views on RU-486: If regular abortion is legal, then so should be RU-486. If regular abortion is illegal, then RU-486 shouldn't be legal either. No need for the double standard as far as that goes.
 
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