I did stare one face to face, from about 10 yards away. Unfortunately my bow was hanging from my stand about 20 yards away.Leslie said:*came back*
I go one further than chcr...if you were wrasslin' it down by hand, that would be sport. If you got face to face with it, that'd be hunting.
I think closer to $20 a pound, but surely more expensive than a beef or pig.chcr said:1. I don't know anyone who hunts because they'd starve without it. (What's hunted venison cost, about $150 a pound?)
I'm talking about when you hunt it. Including equipment, time spent, etc.PuterTutor said:I think closer to $20 a pound, but surely more expensive than a beef or pig.
Precisely the reason I don't hunt bear, mountain lions, etc..chcr said:I have a friend who says it isn't a sport unless the deer have an equal chance of killing you.
PuterTutor said:Precisely the reason I don't hunt bear, mountain lions, etc..
I have gone on a wild boar hunt though, those little fuckers can be dangerous.
chcr said:Tracking is pretty much never impossible although it can be quite difficult. There were only two years that I hunted with a bow that I didn't get a deer. Maybe they were more plentiful where I was. I'm sorry, but I have very strong feelings about this. It's not personal, I just have known a lot of people who consider themselves "mighty hunters" that I personally have a low opinion of.
PuterTutor said:I've got a Merlin Storm, draw weight is right at 65 lbs, shoot 100 grain Montecs on Gold Tip Traditional Hunter carbon arrows. They leave the bow at about 315 feet per second. My drop between 20 and 30 yards is just over two inches, 20 to 40 it drops about 15 inches.
MontecsMrBishop said:I'm assuming that you're not using these on the tips
I've got a Bear 30/60 and with these heads on, I get far too much drop to really make it worthwhile shooting at anything beyond about 20 yards.
If you'r just using regular arrow-heads...that's not so bad.
Upstate New York in late fall (probably early fall to you, but it's practically Canodia up there ) at first, and the last couple of years in AZ (much harder there, BTW). To be fair, the deer population in Upstate New York was fairly high back then. I probably couldn't do it now, but back then I could hit a stationary target accurately with minimal wind at 45-50 yards, moving target out to thirty or so. Needless to say I would try to get closer. Even today, fat and out of shape I can frequently get within 20 yards of a deer before it spooks (I just play now, I never really liked venison that much anyway). Tracking and skulking (for want of a better word) quietly in the woods is an acquired skill as I'm sure you well know and I used to be pretty good at it. For me, the hardest part was always staying downwind regardless of terrain. Well nigh impossible in AZ as I can't fly. Sometimes there you have to just give up on one you're almost close enough to shoot.Gato_Solo said:Okay. I'll bite. Where did you bow hunt, what type of weather, and how close did you actually get? Perhaps you were/are a better shot than me. Perhaps, after a good rain, or a heavy snowfall, the ground vegetation was silent. Taking those scenarios into consideration, I'll grant that tracking can be easier. Deer population is also key in this, as you've mentioned.
PuterTutor said:Montecs
That tip weighs the same as my field tips. 100 grains.
chcr said:And, since I'm an opinionated, disdainful jackass, I frequently present my opinions in an opinionated, disdainful and jackassed way. I long ago stopped apologizing for things I'm not really sorry for, so I won't. It was not my intention to denigrate someone else's way of having fun, just putting in my two cents.
Edit: Ooh, look, piccy.
Meh... You knew it before, you were just bein' polite.Gato_Solo said:I hadn't assumed you were an opinionated, disdainful jackass. I was just trying to get a bit of clarification...but now that we all know...
*Raises Handchcr said:Meh... You knew it before, you were just bein' polite.
PuterTutor said:Nice old bow you got there chcr, I'll have to take a pic of mine when I get home.