So why are you still here?

Gato_Solo

Gato_Solo

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Just as Paul Daniels and Frank Bruno once threatened to quit the UK if Labour got in, many Americans warned they would flee abroad if George Bush was re-elected. So will they honour their promises?

In the run up to the US presidential election last week, Hollywood veteran Robert Redford was asked what he would do were George W Bush to be reinstalled in the White House for four more years.

"I'll probably be in England, no Ireland," said Redford. Visiting or living asked the BBC reporter? "Living," replied the Oscar-winning actor.

Whether Redford was sincere or not remains to be seen, but he was not alone in considering such drastic action in light of a Bush victory.
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You know, if you like your house and in needs repair, you fix it, you don't move to another town. Good riddance. These people are not Americans in my view.
 
chcr said:
You know, if you like your house and in needs repair, you fix it, you don't move to another town. Good riddance. These people are not Americans in my view.
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Most people who say such things have no intention of doing them. They just want attention. Kind of like the child who threatens to hold his breath till he gets what he wants. The best way to stop that behavior is to let him hold his breath. ;)
 
Gato_Solo said:
Most people who say such things have no intention of doing them. They just want attention. Kind of like the child who threatens to hold his breath till he gets what he wants. The best way to stop that behavior is to let him hold his breath. ;)
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Yep.:D Most of the people who spout this crap have little idea what it might be like to live in another country. Try arguing a German cop out of a speeding ticket sometime. ;)
 
Whoopi Goldberg apparently said during a recent interview that, regardless of what she said before, she's not moving to Canada like she said she would if Bush won. So shall we sit her down beside the lying Baldwin? Lying sacks of shit.
 
Professur said:
Whoopi Goldberg apparently said during a recent interview that, regardless of what she said before, she's not moving to Canada like she said she would if Bush won. So shall we sit her down beside the lying Baldwin? Lying sacks of shit.
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I believe she was just trying to scare people into voting her way, without realizing that most people don't give a shit about her or any other celebrity. Most of us just wish they'd make a film and be quiet... :brush:
 
Gato_Solo said:
I believe she was just trying to scare people into voting her way, without realizing that most people don't give a shit about her or any other celebrity. Most of us just wish they'd make a film and be quiet... :brush:
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Or, in many, cases, just be quiet.
 
kuulani said:
Although I never threatened such action, I'm still here because America stole my country ;)
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yup and we have all discussed that it should be given back vs done through blood(which is sort of contradictory to freedom ;)




I am with Chic on this. They are running away rather than trying to find a solution.
 
Canadians open arms to Americans

WHY MOVE TO CANADA?
Reasons to move to Canada, as cited by www.canadianalternative.com:

1. Canada has universal public health care.

2. Canada has no troops in Iraq.

3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty.

4. More than half of Canada's provinces allow same-sex marriage.

5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana.

6. Canada has no law restricting abortion.

7. Canada has strict gun laws and relatively little violence.

8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.

9. Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.

10. Canada has not run a federal deficit since 1996-97.


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SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- Rudi Kischer wants to help those Americans who have the post-election blues after U.S. President George W. Bush's second-term victory.

The Vancouver, British Columbia, immigration lawyer plans seminars in three U.S. cities -- Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles -- to tell Americans frustrated with Bush's re-election that the grass is greener north of the border.

And that's not just an allusion to Canada's lenient marijuana laws.

"We started last year getting a lot of calls from Americans dissatisfied with the way the country is going," Kischer says. "Then after the election, it's been crazy up here. The Canadian immigration Web site had 115,000 hits the day after the election -- from the U.S. alone. We usually only get 20,000 hits."

There was so much interest that a Vancouver-based Internet company, Communicopia, set up a new Web site this month -- www.canadianalternative.com -- to suggest Canada as a viable option for its American clients, including anyone concerned about constitutional bans on gay marriage passed in 11 U.S. states this month.

"We invite you to get to know Canada," the site says. "Explore the richness and diversity of our regions. And find out why Canada is the perfect alternative for conscientious, forward-thinking Americans."

Another Web site urges Canadians: "Open your heart, and your home. Marry an American. Legions of Canadians have already pledged to sacrifice their singlehood to save our southern neighbours from four more years of cowboy conservatism."

Canada suddenly has utopian appeal for many left-leaning Americans. Its universal health care, gay rights, abortion rights, gun-control laws, drug laws, opposition to the Iraq war, ban on capital punishment and ethnic diversity mirror many values of the American left.

Immigrants, including an estimated 1 million Americans, make up nearly 20 percent of Canada's population. The United Nations named Toronto the world's most multicultural city.

And, as Michael Moore pointed out in "Bowling for Columbine" -- required viewing for many lefties -- in Canada there's apparently no reason to lock your door.

On the other hand, it's cold. The baseball's not very good -- so long, Expos. And the taxes are higher, eh?

But, as one American who has his bags nearly packed likes to say, at least the taxes go toward good causes.

"I just like their way of life a lot better, and with everything the Bush administration has done -- for the American people to give him their seal of approval, it's basically the last straw," says Ralph Appoldt, a resident of Portland, in Oregon, a state that narrowly supported Democrat John Kerry for president.

"Canada's basic population is much more intelligent, polite and civilized,"Appoldt said. "I like their way of government a lot better. Their tax dollars go to helping those who need it, instead of funneling money back up to the wealthy and feeding this huge military-industrial machine."

Appoldt, 50, a sales manager, and his wife, a nurse, figure that selling their house and getting their immigration approved could take more than a year. But they're moving, they insist. They've already hired Kischer to help them.

Though he may see a good business opportunity following the election, Kischer has no illusions of a mass American exodus to Canada.

Americans have to follow the same procedures as everybody else -- including the $500 (387 euro) application fee, the $975 (755 euro) landing tax, and the wait of six months to two years.

He only expects about 100 people at each of the how-to-move-to-Canada seminars, all scheduled in Democratic-leaning areas -- December 4 in Seattle, December 5 in Los Angeles and December 6 in San Francisco.

Nancy Bray, a spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Canada, said her agency's Web site received 261,000 hits from the United States in the two days following the election, but it'll be many months before officials can guess how many of them were serious.

"Our interest, our goal, is to attract the best possible immigrants," Bray says. "If there's a lot of publicity about our country, that's to our benefit. But we're not interested in people's political leanings or political dissatisfaction."

Jason Mogus, Communicopia's chief executive, said that while his company wanted to help interested Americans, moving to Canada should be plan B.

"We strongly encourage Americans to stay and build a culture in line with their values," Mogus said. "In other words, stay and fight."
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And me with a brand spankin' new hunting license on the way. Damn, what timing.
 
WHY MOVE TO CANADA?
Reasons to move to Canada, as cited by www.canadianalternative.com:

1. Canada has universal public health care.

2. Canada has no troops in Iraq.

3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty.

4. More than half of Canada's provinces allow same-sex marriage.

5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana.

6. Canada has no law restricting abortion.

7. Canada has strict gun laws and relatively little violence.

8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.

9. Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.

10. Canada has not run a federal deficit since 1996-97.
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Numbers 1,4,5,6,8, and 9 are fantastic arguments for me to keep my happy ass OUT of Canada.

Number 2 is irrelevent to my way line of thinking as to where to live.

I don't know what number 3 is, so I don't know if I like that one or not.

Number 7 is a mixed bag for me. I am all for reduced violence, but I also like my 12 guage a lot.

Number 10 is the only reason I found that would make such a move a good idea for me. Balance that against the weather and the accents, and I'll just stay righ' cheer in Dixie thankyouverymuch. :)
 
Send a few mouthy actors up here, and I'll deal with #7.

As for #10, there are several states with zero tax, that I've heard. NH, as I recall, has no incometax.
 
Well...there's a one-year waiting list for those trying to move to Canada permanently...

Anywho...this thread was aimed at all of those who swore to move to Canada/France if Bush was re-elected. I have yet to see a 'mass migration' out. Seems like there's a fair bit of hypocrisy in the air, doesn't it? :lloyd:
 
Professur said:
Send a few mouthy actors up here, and I'll deal with #7.

As for #10, there are several states with zero tax, that I've heard. NH, as I recall, has no incometax.
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So far, TN has no state income tax either. Thank God for small favors and Republican governors...although this doofus we have now scares me to death.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Well...there's a one-year waiting list for those trying to move to Canada permanently...

Anywho...this thread was aimed at all of those who swore to move to Canada/France if Bush was re-elected. I have yet to see a 'mass migration' out. Seems like there's a fair bit of hypocrisy in the air, doesn't it? :lloyd:
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Didn't you just answer your own question... why aren't you seeing a mass-migration? there's a one-year waiting list for those trying to move to Canada permanently
 
Why don't they all run to Mexico?
Heavens knows the flow del norte
is unimpeded.
Perhaps the reasons are the same?

Yes the U.S. the country everyone wants to be in!
 
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