so why bother having a Supreme Court then?

It is forcing them to not be narrow minded twits. Yep, that's a bad thing.

So what's next Gonz, no more interracial marriage? How about ugly people can only marry other ugly people?
 
I'm all for the ugly people thing as long as they can't reproduce.

So, if MA can force OK to change it's laws, can they also force FL to require state income taxes?
 
Gonz said:
I'm all for the ugly people thing as long as they can't reproduce.

So, if MA can force OK to change it's laws, can they also force FL to require state income taxes?
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people like you make the US look bad...thank god you're not into politics man.
there's no way that anyone can ever argue with you.
 
It is not apples & oranges.

If one state law requires another state law to be changed then why not all state laws?

This is so much bigger than "I do".
 
Shadowfax said:
people like you make the US look bad...thank god you're not into politics man.
there's no way that anyone can ever argue with you.
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That's because I see the larger picture. One pebble can begin a landlside.
 
Gonz said:
It is not apples & oranges.

If one state law requires another state law to be changed then why not all state laws?

This is so much bigger than "I do".
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No, it's not bigger than I do. It may be in a small minded individuals, but not in normal thinking people. We are not changing a policy that affects everyone here. The only people this law would affect is the people that would get married. So again, what harm will it bring to you to allow the two guys next door to get married?
 
Gonz said:
That's because I see the larger picture. One pebble can begin a landlside.
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so that basically means that you want to keep as much things the way they are right now, change as little as possible because it would be such a hassle?

some laws are so old, that they are hardly relevant for current times...that's why they get altered.


but, i'm glad you see the larger picture. i have failed miserably. i apologize for my ignorance.
 
PuterTutor said:
No, it's not bigger than I do. It may be in a small minded individuals, but not in normal thinking people. We are not changing a policy that affects everyone here. The only people this law would affect is the people that would get married. So again, what harm will it bring to you to allow the two guys next door to get married?
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US Constitution said:
Article IV, section 2

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
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Which part is confusing you?
 
Shadowfax said:
so that basically means that you want to keep as much things the way they are right now, change as little as possible because it would be such a hassle?
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You're beginning to catch on.

The more government has it's fingers in the pies of the people the more things get confused. Allow them to feed a few starving orphans & the next thing you know, we're giving food away to healthy & lazy individuals.

If one person deserves to get free medical care, why not everybody?

If gay marriages are allowed why not incestual marriages?

Take a look at your own homeland. Your country has gay marriage and still the AIDS epedemic expounds. What has it solved?
 
Isn't the main fuss over gays getting married due to insurance and what not? No, the neighbor next door who's gay and married might not affect me, a heterosexual married, much, if at all. But it might through insurance. Rates might rise. Not that they aren't rising already. But isn't the whole point of being "legally married" for a gay person is to get married benefits - spouse insurance, tax deductions, etc.

Though, I'm with PT and others who think it doesn't matter and we might as well. The institution of marriage was broke along time ago, allowing same gendar marriages isn't going to hurt it much more.


PS - what's "no fault divorce"?
 
The reasoning behind spousal insurance...stay at home moms. Dad worked, mom took care of the rugrats.

Since homosexuals aren't able to reproduce, they can both work & get their own insurance, right?

No Fault divorce = I don't like you anymore & since divorce is so easy I won't even try to work it out.
 
I don't know about that, Gonz. My husband works, but my insurance is better than his. Therefore he's on my insurance instead of his company's. There's no "stay at home" anything in this.
 
Don't you have somewhere to go? I hear the Northeast is lovely right now...
 
Gonz said:
The rules have changed since they were invented. For the better?
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"for the better" is relative. Yeah, the rules have changed. In my case, allowing my working spouse on my insurance is better. It's cheaper and the insurance is better than what he has(d).

Some might say "for the worse" depending on how it's applied to them.

It's okay to update insurance requirements and regulations, but not update marriage laws to include gays?

:shrugs:

Doesn't make much sense to me. But then, most things don't.
 
Probably so, but remember: If it looks like Ice, it's probably just wet, drive fast.
 
ahh america, the land or milk and honey, where freedom means never haveing to say you are wrong.


I thought that the supreme court was part of the system of checks and balances that secures your freedoms.

I'm suprised at you Gonz, that you would stand up for the president exersizing power that was meant to be beyond his mandate.

I understand you agree with his position, but to support him in this mockery he is making of your system of goverment, the one you stand so proudly in beleif of.

do the ends truly justify the means

*edit* I reread the posts, and realized it went off topic about gay marriage, but it seemed to me that would mean agreeing with the president's choice to go around the supreme court, if I was wrong, I apologize.
 
Gonz said:
Take a look at your own homeland. Your country has gay marriage and still the AIDS epedemic expounds. What has it solved?
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why do you got married? i assume it was because you love that woman, and wanted her to be your wife. am i wrong?

now, think for one second, and ask yourself: why would gay people want to get married? exactly, for the same reasons that you did.

now, please explain to me, what the hell has AIDS epedemic to do with gay marriage?
who ever said gay marriages would solve or worsen the AIDS epedemic?

can't you keep to the point for once, and stop making irrelevant comments, to distract from the actual question? you'd do great in political world, looking from that point of view...
 
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