State of the Union address
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There seems to be a flaw in the reporting. The first one doesn't say a thing about the UN. That is what got us going down this road, I don't care if the UN supports the removal or not. The people polled, when given a direct question "Do you support a war in Iraq, removing saddam" are overwhelmingly saying yes. If you ask "Do you support the war removing saddam, which means it'll interupt the SuperBowl & you may not get laid for a month: then, of course, the numbers change.
freako104
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Gonz said:
dont get me wrong i do care where the country goes and all but i dont give a shit to hear a politician.
Squiggy said:
thats pretty much how i feel thanks squig for putting it into words
flavio the Americans dont really seem to care whether or not were backed by the UN as gonz said 60% want him out of office. they just dont want war. there are other ways to get the public on your side. maybe Bush can play the media to his advantage. but not everyone will want support him.
ris
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no, i think that the us public are in general following the line the uk public are.
do you think saddam is a bad man? yes
do you think that if he is shown to be bad enough we should use military force? yes
should we do it with a un mandate? yes
without a un mandate? umm, err, perhaps
as pt pointed out the questions are different and cannot be equitably compared. support of the un is important to how the war with saddam hussein is percieved by the public. with it we can easily claim to be working for a common good, through international law etc. without it it looks like warmongering.
its the whole reason that tony blair has been stalking europes leaders drumming up support. when the second resolution comes [as it surely will come down to] the vote needs to be as secure as possible even if the evidence isn't.
do you think saddam is a bad man? yes
do you think that if he is shown to be bad enough we should use military force? yes
should we do it with a un mandate? yes
without a un mandate? umm, err, perhaps
as pt pointed out the questions are different and cannot be equitably compared. support of the un is important to how the war with saddam hussein is percieved by the public. with it we can easily claim to be working for a common good, through international law etc. without it it looks like warmongering.
its the whole reason that tony blair has been stalking europes leaders drumming up support. when the second resolution comes [as it surely will come down to] the vote needs to be as secure as possible even if the evidence isn't.
freako104
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you do have some valid points mine was that most dont like Sadam thats about it but you and pt are correct in that the questions arent the same or are differently worded both which will generate different emotions and such. this will be impossible to be able to make any valid answers or stats. but in general my point was that we dont like Sadam. and want him out at any cost. however these same people dont really want a war.