Still opposed to war?

Although I can't condone war over one guy who rapes woman, let's not forget about the Kurds. He's already used chemical warfare. That alone is proof enough he has it. People think that now we've got these inspectors in there, we'll find it all. Wrong. Whatever was there, is now gone or hidden in places completely unknown. He's got all the damn chemical weapons he wants and will make more to his hearts desire. War? Hell Bush should have let me finish doing my job the last time we were there. Chances are, none of this shit would be happening.

It's to late for war. this whole thing was strung out by the Clinton's and their lacky's. Bush is just trying to finish the job that got started 12 years ago. Problem is, Bill and Hillary procrastinated on it so long that now whatever they have, or had, for chemical weapons are more than likely in another country or are hidden in places so far below the desert that we'll never find anything. They've had four years to completely wipe any trace they had to them.

Yes, I say finish the job we should have done 12 years ago.
 
Luis G said:
It's the population decision if they want to get rid of the dictator, it isn't US' job.
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It is if he threatens us, and he does.

Bush said when he ran for president that he didn't believe in nation building, i.e., going into a country to restructure their government in our image. He said we should only go to war if it's an issue of national security. The examples of Saddam's brutality just serve to demonstrate what the man is capable of. It's his quest for weapons of mass destruction coupled with his hatred of the US and willingness to violate the conventions of modern warfare that are of concern to us. This is an issue of national security and we need to rid the earth of Saddam Hussein for our own good.
 
I see the reason in your comments, and is a valid one.

But comments like "we are having this war to help the people" just pisses me off, i can't believe that some people actually believes that.
 
unclehobart said:
Perhaps we should rename it so that war wouldnt seem so terrible. We could call it : Agressive Flower Arranging ... or Global Scale Synchronized Mosh Pit.
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euphemisms. cant be beat :rofl: problem is that they hide the truth as George Carlin said in his routine. still opposed to war? yes. opposed to Sadam: yes. but i am opposed to killing many to get one.
 
opposed to war? yes.
still opposed after reading said document? yup.
think rosevelt (was it rosevelt?) had it right with "walk softly..."? yes
think everything would have been just fine if the CIA would have listened to me instead of arming dictators? :D
think bush is a big dumb dumb? :)
think bush is determined to avenge the family? probably.
 
Saddam was a real thorn in his side after the Gulf War and there was an attempt.

There is a lot of reason for that family to not like Saddam. However, Saddam has repeatedly sponsored terrorism. One thing he did was to offer compensation to families of suicide bombers in Israel.

Saddam is a bad guy. Real bad. He will use weapons of mass distruction if he thinks he can get enough shit started. He'd like nothing better than to be the catalyst to start a major war between countries in the Middle East and the US. He will use these weapons if given enough time. That's my opinion.
 
you forgot one thing s4. it seems he ahs the means as well. i agree hes bad. i have said it before but that i hate him but i dont want the US to attack without just cause. now we have one. my only concern with war is that innocent people die. id rather the guilty parties kill each other off and leave the civilians alone and i do hope if we do attack we help rebuild the homes and support for families.
 
i'd imagine that there would be some sort of rebuild effort, big industry still wants their oil and the last thing we need to do is give militant arabs another reason to hate the great satan

maybe all wars should be fought in antarctica where the only thing we'd hurt is the enviroment (and baby seals), because <flame> the republicans say we aren't damaging the environment anyways. </flame>
 
since when is iraq the foremost sponser of worldwide terrorism? since when does iraq have a worse human rights record then half the other countries in middle-east or the rest of the world? for a comparison, how long has it been since the US government sponsered, for instance, the forcible sterilization of native american women? or the internment of japanese citizens in concentration camps? iraq, of all middle-eastern nations is suddenly primarily responsible for terrorism? what about the taliban, or al-quaida. will the death of saddam and the subjugation of iraq defeat terrorism? if saddam is such a terrible guy why did we aid him in the 1980's? was he an upstanding and morally responsible world leader in the 80's or did our government just not need to fabricate a war to garner votes at the time? or was iraq simply farther away than granada?
 
nnewton said:
since when is iraq the foremost sponser of worldwide terrorism? since when does iraq have a worse human rights record then half the other countries in middle-east or the rest of the world? for a comparison, how long has it been since the US government sponsered, for instance, the forcible sterilization of native american women? or the internment of japanese citizens in concentration camps? iraq, of all middle-eastern nations is suddenly primarily responsible for terrorism? what about the taliban, or al-quaida. will the death of saddam and the subjugation of iraq defeat terrorism? if saddam is such a terrible guy why did we aid him in the 1980's? was he an upstanding and morally responsible world leader in the 80's or did our government just not need to fabricate a war to garner votes at the time? or was iraq simply farther away than granada?
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Wow. Seems somebody has a chip on their shoulder. While I don't condone many of the things the US has done in the past, starting way before the sterilization of Native American women BTW, the only way to effectively change the course of government is to vote. Did you know that only approximately 50% of voting-age Americans actually exercise their right to vote? Apathy has done more damage to this country than any of the above things you've mentioned. I have only one question for you...What are you doing to change things now? Anyone can point at the past. Our job is to look towards the future.

BTW..The US is not the only country to do vile things it it's past. Nobody is perfect, and governments are made up of people. The main difference between how our government was, and is, and how other governments are is in our openess about most of our misdeeds.
 
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