Taxes
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unclehobart
New Member
flat rate across the board. You make nothing, you pay nothing. You make tons, you pay tons.
rrfield
New Member
I don't think Steve Forbes is all there, but I do like his flat tax...
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Dave
Well-Known Member
flat tax is a great idea, but it'll never work.
government and civil service payrolls are bloated by union employees. pork barrel funding is the life blood of politicians. military hardware is getting more expensive daily. its only a matter of time before some sort of national health care coverage is instituted. humanitarian aid and propping up the governments of friendly dictators isnt cheap either.
if the rich start getting taxed at higher rates they will just move their money and/or themselves someplace where they can keep more of it.
government and civil service payrolls are bloated by union employees. pork barrel funding is the life blood of politicians. military hardware is getting more expensive daily. its only a matter of time before some sort of national health care coverage is instituted. humanitarian aid and propping up the governments of friendly dictators isnt cheap either.
if the rich start getting taxed at higher rates they will just move their money and/or themselves someplace where they can keep more of it.
Winky
Well-Known Member
it is OK Cat
you are not capable of grasping the concept
it really isn't your fault
perhaps I can better answer your question
by posing another question
does it really require a half a trillion dollar expenditure to
"provide for the common defense?"
Ayn Rand proposed that if you used a government service
you paid for it.
never mind, few can even begin to get their minds around the idea...
you are not capable of grasping the concept
it really isn't your fault
perhaps I can better answer your question
by posing another question
does it really require a half a trillion dollar expenditure to
"provide for the common defense?"
Ayn Rand proposed that if you used a government service
you paid for it.
never mind, few can even begin to get their minds around the idea...
Winky
Well-Known Member
and that is just as it should be
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Especially with that kind of attitude...
Dave said:
And that is the fault of whom?
Dave said:
Hey...they keep getting re-elected because of it, so it is the fault of who that this goes on?
Dave said:
That's the first thing you've said that makes any kind of dent in such a plan. Here are a couple of good questions for you...
How much time and money does it take to develope a weapons system without Congressional oversight?
How much time and money does it take to develope a weapons system with Congressional oversight?
Dave said:
Once again...that idea is firmly in the hands of the voter...
I agree 100%. Now tell that to www.savedarfur.orgDave said:
Dave said:
Which is exactly what they do now, so what's your point?
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
I say we start by returning to the government the powers it was supposed to have and only those powers. This will require a segment of our population to get off their collective asses and earn at least a portion of their own keep, even if it means getting rid of the Escalade with the spinners and neon kit. Tough titty.
After we reign in our elected representatives and remind them exactly what they can/cannot do and who put them there to do it, many of our problems will be corrected. All this talk of national health care and other needless government intervention will disappear as quickly as Rush Limbaugh at a Weight Watchers meeting.
We the people have forgotten that all this starts with the words "We the people" on an old piece of paper. Until we retake what we and our ancestors have given away, there are no solutions. Well, one maybe, but I ain't going there today.
But that's sheer wishing on my part. It'll never happen, because we have been conditioned. The one time an effort was made to return to the principles the country once stood for wasn't received very well by some moneyed folk, and that's that. So conditioned we are, and conditioned we shall obviously remain, because it makes us feel better than fixing the problems would.
And to entertain ourselves, we'll bitch about taxes. Always helps.
After we reign in our elected representatives and remind them exactly what they can/cannot do and who put them there to do it, many of our problems will be corrected. All this talk of national health care and other needless government intervention will disappear as quickly as Rush Limbaugh at a Weight Watchers meeting.
We the people have forgotten that all this starts with the words "We the people" on an old piece of paper. Until we retake what we and our ancestors have given away, there are no solutions. Well, one maybe, but I ain't going there today.
But that's sheer wishing on my part. It'll never happen, because we have been conditioned. The one time an effort was made to return to the principles the country once stood for wasn't received very well by some moneyed folk, and that's that. So conditioned we are, and conditioned we shall obviously remain, because it makes us feel better than fixing the problems would.
And to entertain ourselves, we'll bitch about taxes. Always helps.
Winky
Well-Known Member
yup and they would require only small pocket change to finance
chcr
Too cute for words
It's not even a great idea. It penalizes the poor. There may or may not be too many loopholes but the flat tax is a horrible idea.
catocom
Well-Known Member
Flat tax would work, but you need to do away with the deductions too.
If it isn't complicated, with a bunch of loopholes, so the 'average' person can't
understand it, the politicians will never go for it.
They gotta have a way out of everything, so if things go wrong ya know.