The end game

Why do you hate the US so much? You, as I recall, have never said anything in it's favor. If we suck so bad, move your ass somewhere better. Oh sorry, there is nowhere better.



This is not to imply that (insert country here) isn't equally good.
 
Back to that stupid shtick again? I thought most of the war people had given that up in light of recent events. I don't hate the US, you hate the US because you support an administration that is ruining the country. I love the US and therefore will speak against those who would ruin it.

So obviously you're the one who should move.

Sorry if I burst your bubble about the rape situation in regards to your beloved invasion.
 
Oh my gawd, it's an epidemic!!! Call out the National Guard. Get the President on the phone. Shit, call Superman, he'll help with this catastrophe.

Human Rights Watch said it had learned of 25 credible allegations of rape or abduction following interviews with alleged victims, witnesses, Iraqi police and health professionals, and US military police.

Not to make light of a serious subject but c'mon, get something right.

Yahoo
 
By the way, the world is there. I wonder why the media hasn't reported it?

ROBERTSON: "Well, it's not a fair criticism really because most people don't know that NATO is already helping in Iraq. Poland and Spain, two of the key NATO allies are putting troops there and running a whole division, a division the size of the country of Hungary, and there are a lot of other nations helping them as well. So NATO structures are helping them to go and relieve some of the burden from British and American troops who have carried them up till now."

NATO commanding general Lord George Robertson on the "Today Show" 07/29/03.
 
flavios story said:
The breakdown of the Iraqi government after the war makes any crime hard to quantify. But the incidence of rape and abduction in particular seems to have increased, according to discussions with physicians, law-enforcement officials and families involved.

A new report by Human Rights Watch based on more than 70 interviews with law-enforcement officials, victims and their families, medical personnel and members of the coalition authority found 25 credible reports of abduction and sexual violence since the war.




sound familiar?

His parents, from a poor Baghdad neighbourhood, are divorced and the streets or prison are now his home.
 
Gonz said:
By the way, the world is there. I wonder why the media hasn't reported it?

ROBERTSON: "Well, it's not a fair criticism really because most people don't know that NATO is already helping in Iraq. Poland and Spain, two of the key NATO allies are putting troops there and running a whole division, a division the size of the country of Hungary, and there are a lot of other nations helping them as well. So NATO structures are helping them to go and relieve some of the burden from British and American troops who have carried them up till now."


NATO commanding general Lord George Robertson on the "Today Show" 07/29/03.

No way dude, NATO as a body is not involved in Iraq, get that idea out of your head right now. MEMBERS of NATO are involved, but that doesn't mean shit. NATO, like the UN, is only involved when the NATO council decides as a whole to go ahead. People could get into serious trouble for spouting shit like that.
 
So do you not think that it's possible that these things were going on before, but that the media there was controlled by a dictator and therefore not allowed to report these kinds of things? Do you think that Saddam wanted the papers full of rape, drug use and such, hell no. That would imply he doesn't have strict control of everything. I say this was all happening before, but now that there is a somewhat free press there to report it, we hear about it.
 
PuterTutor said:
So do you not think that it's possible that these things were going on before, but that the media there was controlled by a dictator and therefore not allowed to report these kinds of things? Do you think that Saddam wanted the papers full of rape, drug use and such, hell no. That would imply he doesn't have strict control of everything. I say this was all happening before, but now that there is a somewhat free press there to report it, we hear about it.



as if it wasnt. it was happening before PT. but Sadam did have control of the press and prevented the info from coming out. also its hard for a rape victim to admit what happened thats the other side to it
 
Sure it was happening before, word is though....that incidences are up since the invasion due to the lawlessness that prevails now.
 
flav what PT was getting it is that no-one has any way of knowing what it was like before so there's no frame of reference to be able to claim that things are worse than before.
 
What we're getting at is with no correct frame of reference who's to say if it's up or down.

Since the American & British military made Iraq a free nation they are now more likely to complain since the abusers aren't the government.
 
Well, there's a couple reports there that say rape is on the rise in Iraq. You can choose to not believe them and make up your own theory on the situation if you feel you have better information.
 
Reports by who and the question still stands, how do THEY know? Neither Gonz nor I have said anything about whether we think it actually is or not, because in order to have an opinion on something, you have to be INFORMED about the subject, something which no-one is in a position to be.

What you're claiming is akin to saying "There is more life under the ice surface of Europa [a moon of Jupiter] than there was 1,000 years ago". No-one has any clue what degree of life there was then and so any comparison with today is utter nonsense. Whether it's coincidentally true or not.
 
a13antichrist said:
What you're claiming is akin to saying "There is more life under the ice surface of Europa [a moon of Jupiter] than there was 1,000 years ago". No-one has any clue what degree of life there was then and so any comparison with today is utter nonsense. Whether it's coincidentally true or not.

He would never claim that, because it wouldn't make President Bush look bad.
 
What I'm claiming is that there are two articles that say that rape has increased and one article that says that child drug use has increased.

You can choose not to believe these articles and theorize on your own if you prefer.

Bush certainly doesn't need any of my help to make himself look bad.
 
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