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Yes. It all goes hand in hand. Parents did their job until the state got too involved.
 
then we do agree it has to do with the parents and nothing about prayer so why complain they took it out
 
it's pure an attitude thing of the kid. quite obviously, the parents aren't doing a good job. if she was raised well, she wouldn't even THINK about doing something like that.
prayer has nothing to do with it. there are plenty of decent atheist kids as well...it's a matter of respect, not religious beliefs.
 
Stop focusing on prayer. That, in & of itself, is not the answer. That, in context with what it represents, is.
 
you and Paul are the ones who said it was the lack of prayer in scool. even if he was or wasnt being sarcastic you said it was true
 
as if a student has never physically attacked a teacher before in the history of schooling.... This case shows us nothing. Its the breaching of the taboo of fire arms in the school house that is what we should really be focusing on. Because that has in fact changed the playing field in the past 10 years or so. 40 years ago the worst thing you would ever see in a school would be a switch blade. But the conciousness has shifted since then and we now live in a Columbine world. Rest assured 10 year olds kicking teachers are NOT a big problem in comparison.
 
I can't answer for forty years ago but 25 years ago we brought weapons onto school property. Some for ROTC. Some of us were going hunting after school. Some even to sell them. Weapons are nothing more than a tool. We need to focus on the attitude change. That and, 25 years ago, if a ten year old, or a high school senior, attacked a teacher, the teacher could have single handedly taken care of the problem, taken the offender to the principal & the cops would have never needed to get involved.
 
Thankfully, I graduated high school before terrorism became big business in the US. I carried a Swiss Army knife in my pocket, and the teahers never knew because no one ever searched me. Of course, I didn't make trouble so they never had a reason to. Also, I usually walked to school, but on occasion I would drive the '62 Fairlane there. In the trunk was a tool kit that had a utility knife in it. But here's a story of a high school girl to Florida who borrowed her mom's car to drive to school because hers broke down, and when they did a random search of it they found her mom's self-protection stun gun. Now she's expelled, just three weeks before graduating. And there's no appeals process at that school district.
 
Inkara1 said:
Thankfully, I graduated high school before terrorism became big business in the US. I carried a Swiss Army knife in my pocket, and the teahers never knew because no one ever searched me. Of course, I didn't make trouble so they never had a reason to. Also, I usually walked to school, but on occasion I would drive the '62 Fairlane there. In the trunk was a tool kit that had a utility knife in it. But here's a story of a high school girl to Florida who borrowed her mom's car to drive to school because hers broke down, and when they did a random search of it they found her mom's self-protection stun gun. Now she's expelled, just three weeks before graduating. And there's no appeals process at that school district.
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Anyone remember when this used to be America?
 
Inkara1 said:
Thankfully, I graduated high school before terrorism became big business in the US. I carried a Swiss Army knife in my pocket, and the teahers never knew because no one ever searched me. Of course, I didn't make trouble so they never had a reason to. Also, I usually walked to school, but on occasion I would drive the '62 Fairlane there. In the trunk was a tool kit that had a utility knife in it. But here's a story of a high school girl to Florida who borrowed her mom's car to drive to school because hers broke down, and when they did a random search of it they found her mom's self-protection stun gun. Now she's expelled, just three weeks before graduating. And there's no appeals process at that school district.
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my hs would have had a problem with the knife. it tended to be a little more conservatve in terms of what students could bring/wear. the spiked braclet I sometimes wear wasnt even allowed itself
 
Gonz said:
Stop focusing on prayer. That, in & of itself, is not the answer. That, in context with what it represents, is.
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that, what you hope it will accomplish, isn't something that can be found just in religion. it's about values and mere common decency, and we all know pretty well, that being a christian of whatever religious person, means that a person will be (or even more) ACT like that.
 
Shadowfax said:
that, what you hope it will accomplish, isn't something that can be found just in religion. it's about values and mere common decency, and we all know pretty well, that being a christian of whatever religious person, means that a person will be (or even more) ACT like that.
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True. Religion is the vessel that carries many to the spot where they have & use morals, values & principles. Without religion, what are those values based on?- from where is commom decency based?

With the legal forcing of a faithless society, our science has skyrocketed & our common base has eroded. Abortion, crime, child negelect, divorce...family based cohesion, has been set aside for the "me" principle. If "I" ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. What a powerful rock to build foundations for the future.

Religion is not the answer. It is what is needed by too many modern humans to get to the answer. Otherwise, as fifty years of moving away from religion has shown, we act like a bunch of greedy, egotistical adolescents.
 
humans are selfish in nature. as far as the religion thing goes: I feel religion has cause more problems than it has solved.



Morals and values are taught at an early age. it is based around how to live your life. religion has nothing at all to do with it other than teaching its own morals
 
catocom said:
I don't remember being able to vote on whether to take paddings
out of school, or not.
I've voice my opinion that it needs to be there (in a certain capacity)
or crap just like this, and worse, would be happening.
Now there's no turning it back.
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If I ever heard about a teacher hitting my kid allowed to or not there would be serious hell to pay..
 
Djcake said:
If I ever heard about a teacher hitting my kid allowed to or not there would be serious hell to pay..
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It could be with me too ...now. :confused:
Teachers aren't what they used to be either.
Some are worse than the kids.
The last time I got sent to the assistant principle's office,
he gave me a choice on 5-days suspension, or 5 licks with the paddle.
I took the paddle. I figured I get worse at home if I took the 5 days.
That's the other part of the problem. Parents don't do there part
like they used too.
 
catocom said:
That's the other part of the problem. Parents don't do there part like they used too.
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This is where I would say there is a large difference between parents and a lot people who have kids. Parenting is a job. It's hard. You do it all the time. It never stops (mine's 28). Having kids is easy.
 
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