The Maple Leaf Forever

Canada's trying to be European. Canada has been aping trends in Europe, from the obsession with multiculturalism to the rising contempt for religion, greater censorship, and even a declining birthrate. Canada's birthrate is 1.49 children per woman, well below the replacement level of 2.1. Canada's elites behave much like those of the United States, favoring judicially imposed decisions over democratic and legislative ones. In Canada, a smaller and less varied nation than the United States, the elites meet less resistance. But there are signs of a pushback. Though the Canadian and American press consistently give the impression that gay marriage is overwhelmingly favored in Canada, a February 2 National Post /Global National poll found that two thirds of Canadians oppose gay marriage and would most likely vote against it in a national plebiscite. The polls suggest that Canadians are close to Americans on this issue. It's elite opinion and judges that make Canada look different.
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So Would I be right in thinking that America is against:

  • Multiculturism is bad?
    Organised religion is good?
    The USA has less censorship?
    Gay marriage is bad?

I don't think I could come to a common consensus with a person that thought like that
 
Lopan said:
So Would I be right in thinking that America is against:

  • Multiculturism is bad?
    Organised religion is good?
    The USA has less censorship?
    Gay marriage is bad?

I don't think I could come to a common consensus with a person that thought like that
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To answer your questions...

  • No.
    Yes.
    Yes.
    Yes.

Now...to explain, before the interpretations of my answers begin...

Multiculturism itself is not bad. Demanding that your culture be favored above the others is bad. For instance...In the UK proper, government forms are printed in English. If you don't read/write/speak English, you'e better learn. In the US, government forms must be printed in several languages. English, Spanish, French, Italian, Mandarin Chinese, Cantonese, Japanese...and the people who speak/read/write these languages are not forced to learn the language of the majority.

Organized religion is good because that's the way our constitution was written. Freedom of religion.

Censorship is a little tougher to pin down, because not too many folks will agree on what censorship really means. Lewd and lacivious conduct, rough language, and sex are 'censored' from over-the-air television, but allowed on pay-channels. Free exchanges of ideas are allowed (like this one on this forum), but yelling fire in a crowded theater can get you locked up. Most people who claim they are being censored are actually not being censored at all, as censorship is by the government, and not an individual/group/company you happen to work for, or associate with. :shrug:

Most US citizens have a problem with gay marriage. I'd prefer that it be called a 'Civil Union', myself, but this isn't about what I think.
 
K62 said:
pfft,

Hey! Lets not forget who won the war of 1812!
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I never understand how rabble-rousing young male Canadians get over the war of 1812. They thump their chests and act like they did it all solo. It was a British war. Canada supplied some men and safe harbors for the British professional troops and its massive industrail backbone.

The US was barely 30 years old ... still in the pram.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Multiculturism itself is not bad. Demanding that your culture be favored above the others is bad. For instance...In the UK proper, government forms are printed in English. If you don't read/write/speak English, you'e better learn. In the US, government forms must be printed in several languages. English, Spanish, French, Italian, Mandarin Chinese, Cantonese, Japanese...and the people who speak/read/write these languages are not forced to learn the language of the majority.
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Actually Gato, I work within the government sector... Education... and ALL of our forms/info have to be available in all known local languages too... with braile and audio versions available too...

High level documents... yes.. will be initially written in English... but other language copies will be available to all... as is the case in America. :shrug:
 
ClaireBear said:
Actually Gato, I work within the government sector... Education... and ALL of our forms/info have to be available in all known local languages too... with braile and audio versions available too...

High level documents... yes.. will be initially written in English... but other language copies will be available to all... as is the case in America. :shrug:
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Ahhh...you folks pander to your immigrant population as well. I'm against such insanity chiefly due to cost. My tax money could be better spent on my own pay raises. ;) Then again, I also think our Congressmen and Senators get paid too much...
 
Gato_Solo said:
To answer your questions...

  • No.
    Yes.
    Yes.
    Yes.

Now...to explain, before the interpretations of my answers begin...
Multiculturism itself is not bad. Demanding that your culture be favored above the others is bad. For instance...In the UK proper, government forms are printed in English. If you don't read/write/speak English, you'e better learn. In the US, government forms must be printed in several languages. English, Spanish, French, Italian, Mandarin Chinese, Cantonese, Japanese...and the people who speak/read/write these languages are not forced to learn the language of the majority.
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Nope, All our forms are mutilingual. It is a different scenario though, we are afterall an indigenous race. This makes multiculturism and intergration more of an issue then it would be in America.

religion is good because that's the way our constitution was written. Freedom of religion.
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Fair enough, horses for courses as you might say. I think religion should be personal though and your religous ideals should be kept to yourself. Many Christaians agree and there is a very good book by Brian Mawhinney (ex - British politician) that discusses this.


Organiz
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Get an Oxford English dictionary. We spell alot of words with S instead of Z . This is because we don't have a strong slavic influence on our English.


Censorship is a little tougher to pin down, because not too many folks will agree on what censorship really means. Lewd and lacivious conduct, rough language, and sex are 'censored' from over-the-air television, but allowed on pay-channels. Free exchanges of ideas are allowed (like this one on this forum), but yelling fire in a crowded theater can get you locked up. Most people who claim they are being censored are actually not being censored at all, as censorship is by the government, and not an individual/group/company you happen to work for, or associate with. :shrug:
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It seems in resurgence here, we had two incidents;

Play censored - religion

Jerry Springer Opera

Most US citizens have a problem with gay marriage. I'd prefer that it be called a 'Civil Union', myself, but this isn't about what I think.
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I really don't get the problem. People should be given the same rights under law when married, be they same sex or not. Call it something different if you want.
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So they have a strong tendency to suppress speech that they see as lacking in niceness.
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So, if I cross the border, will I be arrested for telling the truth in a loud & boisterous way?
 
Winky said:
so Canada is only 40 years old? j/k

I LOVE maple syrup on my pan cakies
but we got trees here so what's the point
of the great white north again?
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It's not the trees, it's the cold. Without warm days and icy nights during the thaw, you don't get the sap run you need.
 
Professur said:
It's not the trees, it's the cold. Without warm days and icy nights during the thaw, you don't get the sap run you need.
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Psst...Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. :grinyes:
 
Exactly. But you might have noticed one thing. They'd all fit into that little space between the border and the St-Lawrence. Volume, my friend. Volume makes it affordable to ship to you thin blooded warm state folk. Come up at the end of winter one year, and I'll treat you to a sugaring off. You'll never look at the N on a compass the same way again.
 
unclehobart said:
I never understand how rabble-rousing young male Canadians get over the war of 1812. They thump their chests and act like they did it all solo. It was a British war. Canada supplied some men and safe harbors for the British professional troops and its massive industrail backbone.

The US was barely 30 years old ... still in the pram.
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Aw, did I hit at a sore spot?

Read my post again, did I claim we did it solo? I am fully aware of the British effort in the war. But, do not forget that the British hardly had ANY troops in Canada at the time of the invasion as they were involved in another war AGAINST ANOTHER SUPERPOWER, France!

Still in the pram? Don't forget that the USA had numerical superiority in almost every battle.

I don't thump my chest at the defeat of the Americans in their attempt to invade Canada at all. I brought this topic up in more of a humourous response to Winky after his humourous comments about Canada. hence, the eskimo joke, ":D", and the "pfft".




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O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

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MrBishop said:
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

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:canada:
 
Aw go on Be proud
(as a serviceman you have every right to be)
and Canada never did anything bad
and I can't see it ever doing anything bad in the future.
(unless you start burning Arabs next week) heh heh

Hell down here even we catch crap for being proud of
our country! (from the commie libs IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!)
 
MrBishop said:
I never did get it why we're not allowed, as Canadians, to be proud of our country. :shrug:
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Because it's not nice to be proud of your evil, murdering heritage.
 
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