This is how it all starts...

How strange. I've had knives off-and-on since grade school. Never needed permission to buy them, either...except from the parents...:shrug: My first knife was a knock-off Swiss army knife that I used for cub scouting activities...
 
Knives are also illegal in India ... so you know what they do? Clubs, sticks, staves, tree branches, rocks. Its hard to make trees and pointy rocks illegal. They still manage to do group riot kills by the dozen.
 
Britain's govermental legislation hasn't earned it the term "Nanny State" for nothing you know...

There's a kind of feeling that there is too much interference... but such feelings are only felt by the intelligent who do not need such guidelines.

Basically the ONLY time a child under 16 would need a knife realistically would be for Scout/Guide activities... perhaps in horse riding or helping in a rural workplace with their family... so parental consent would be granted and they would hopefully purchase such an item. Even before such legislation I personally wouldn't allow a 14 year old boy leave a store with a 10 inch serated knife! :shrug:
 
CB said:
the ONLY time a child under 16 would need a knife realistically would be for Scout/Guide activities
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Whittling, cutting kite string, cutting fishing line....there are many resons to posses a knife, as a child or adult.
 
Gonz said:
Whittling, cutting kite string, cutting fishing line....there are many resons to posses a knife, as a child or adult.
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Whittling?

Yeah in 1957 maybe!... Today they'd tell you to go "whittle" yourself!

Kite string?

Yeah I'm gonna let my kid have a knife in their pocket when they're running with a kite... slip..trip and ouch! Swiss army or not! Heard of scissors?

Fishing line?

Again heard of scissors?

Besides if a kid has a valid reason for a knife like a swiss army... they can get bloomin parents to buy it for them.. unless they can't tell them what its for in which case they shouldn't have it in the first place...

Simple really!
 
How do knives & scissors differ? Pointy sharp & edged, designed to seperate.
 
Gonz..haven't you heard of safety scissors? :grinno:

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ClaireBear said:
Besides if a kid has a valid reason for a knife like a swiss army... they can get bloomin parents to buy it for them.. unless they can't tell them what its for in which case they shouldn't have it in the first place...
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Thought I'd better repeat the real issue here... seems like you may have missed it...

Gonz said:
How do knives & scissors differ? Pointy sharp & edged, designed to seperate.
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I really don't know what a discussion based on "Which is sharpest/more dangerous?" will prove... but considering you can get lockable children's scissors with plastic blade protectors... I'd be using those.
 
CB said:
Besides if a kid has a valid reason for a knife like a swiss army... they can get bloomin parents to buy it for them.. unless they can't tell them what its for in which case they shouldn't have it in the first place...
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In a nutshell...and if they're under a certain age...this is absolutely true. Unfortunately, this isn't the way it is in the US. A child of 8 or 9 when I was that age, could buy a swiss army knife, and nobody would bat an eye. They could also buy other types of knives, such as this...

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but they'd usually get asked if they had their parents permission. ;) That's the key here...parental permission and/or guidance. :grinyes:
 
CB said:
Besides if a kid has a valid reason for a knife like a swiss army...
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CB said:
the ONLY time a child under 16 would need a knife realistically would be for Scout/Guide activities
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Either you is or you ain't ;)
 
Yes it is. So is whittling, kiting, fishing, etc. Overprotection is almost as bad as underprotection.
 
Gonz said:
Yes it is. So is whittling, kiting, fishing, etc. Overprotection is almost as bad as underprotection.
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whittling kiting and fishing are scouting/guiding activities.. :rolleyes:

I agree with your point about overprotection but it would be very very hard to forgive yourself if once just once the the small margine of error or disaster encroached...

Also rememeber I am yet to be a parent I argue child welfare issues from the stand point of a teacher... where everything normal about childhood... rough and tumble play, competetive games... even conker fights are slowly being outlawed in case of injury and/or offence.

Personally I think its terrible but I argue from what I know.
 
ClaireBear said:
Also rememeber I am yet to be a parent I argue child welfare issues from the stand point of a teacher... where everything normal about childhood... rough and tumble play, competetive games... even conker fights are slowly being outlawed in case of injury and/or offence.

Personally I think its terrible but I argue from what I know.
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Speaking as a parent, I'll say this one thing. Children need their bumps and scrapes. Minor, of course, we're not talking visits to the emergency room. They need them because a parent cannot be there 24/7...and even if the parent is there, they can't always intervene. ;)
 
Gato_Solo said:
Speaking as a parent, I'll say this one thing. Children need their bumps and scrapes. Minor, of course, we're not talking visits to the emergency room. They need them because a parent cannot be there 24/7...and even if the parent is there, they can't always intervene. ;)
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Exactly!

But what is a minor bump or scrape when it happens when Mum or Dad are enjoying a bottle of veno and can't be arsed to move off the veranda...suddenly becomes a life threatening injury worthy of compensation when it occurs when Miss Morris was supervising a whole yard (over 200 children!) at break time!
 
in the face of such obvious neglect I think I'd sue too. 1:200 is not an acceptable ratio.
 
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