Two Million

Sorry you were so dissapointed to find out the founders approved of socialized things Gonz. That must suck for you.

You kinda just get forced into running away from the thread repeatedly around here when you get backed into a corner. Gotta be embarrassing.
 
You're wrong. Period.

I'll let you work it out for yourself....if the above mentioned government services are truly socialism, then, what, pray tell, is a non-socialized government service? NOT GOOGLE - YOU
 
2minkey said:
right. we should ignore the several hundred thousand dead people because no one is certain whether it is 300,000 or 800,000. right. there is no principle that has been violated here until there is technical perfection in the counting mechanism....:rolleyes:
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That has nothing to do with ignoring anything. Your dismissing attitude is getting tiring, to quote another user. Its a war zone. People get killed in a war zone. Your dismissal of facts is quite evident. Here's a few more for ya'

The base I was at was attacked at least three times a week by mortars and rockets. Most fell short. None were accurate. The ones that fell short usually landed in unpopulated areas around the base.
While I was waiting to get breakfast one morning, a car bomb went off right outside one of the gates. Only civilians were killed. How much do you want to bet that those folks wound up in that ridiculous number of dead being blamed on NATO and US forces?
 
Gonz said:
You're wrong. Period.
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No, you're wrong. Period.

Socialized : "To place under government or group ownership or control."

I'll let you work it out for yourself....if the above mentioned government services are truly socialism, then, what, pray tell, is a non-socialized government service?
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If the service is under government control or group ownership it's socialized. The definition is pretty clear. Not much room for you there.
 
Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
 
We were talking about "socialized" but I'm glad you looked up "socialism". As you can see a public healthcare option doesn't fit the definition and now people can quit throwing around that word.

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Socialized is the past tense....

Government medicine fits quite well in the bold section of definition 1
 
Two Million? Not enough I say!

Wow he is Right what Osammie and Co
are advocating is more along the lines of fascism.
 
JTP said:
Two Million. That's the estimate of the people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001.
Let's assume half of them were terrorists who deserve a violent death. That still leaves a milion people dead.
Let's assume there is no God or even Karma. Let's take the hard-nosed Atheist approach and say, well, those people were going to die of something- cancer, scurvy, gum disease. Nobody lives forever. Still, a million non-enemy dead, by conservative estimate, by our hands, our bombs and shells.
Let's assume the lives of 5 children of ignorant goat-herders equals the life of one innocent U.S. citizen. Do the math and see that we have been avenged. Can we GTFO now?
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There aren't a million terrorists in the world, let alone in Iraq.
ResearchMonkey said:
Yea no kidding, where is my cheap gas I paid for?

Lets assume that there is 250 billions barrels of oil in Iraq. Lets assume my SUV gets 11mpg/ 15 hwy. I usually drive alone but lets assume that sometimes I have 5 kids in the car. How many more JDAM's will it take to get gas back down to $2gal?
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Gonz said:
Socialized is the past tense....

Government medicine fits quite well in the bold section of definition 1
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It doesn't fit because your not doing anything with the means of production. If you twist the definition to cover a service than the post office, military, and roads would all fit.
 
So basically your definition doesn't fit but if you twist it a bit healthcare fits but so does roads, post office, and military.

You've left yourself no option. I like it.
 
Gato_Solo said:
That has nothing to do with ignoring anything. Your dismissing attitude is getting tiring, to quote another user. Its a war zone. People get killed in a war zone. Your dismissal of facts is quite evident. Here's a few more for ya'
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that would be dismissive attitude, and please comment on post content and not the user, ummkay?
 
What minkey said. - Leslie

care all you want. as long as the bastards dance in the streets when an american dies we do not let up. ever. its called war. its called the world trade centers. its called hijacking airplanes full of civilians and flying them into places filled with more civilians. its called terrorism. they aint quit but you want to. kill em all and let God sort em out. so some civilians over there got waxed. so did ours. we didnt start it. we damn sure better finish it
 
What minkey said. - Leslie

kill em all and let God sort em out.
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Kill all who? There's been some discussion here about you hate speech and we're not sure who all you want to kill. Want to clarify that for us?
 
when a people choose to slaughter our citizens we need to retailate. we need to finish the job. so long as one of them lives we need to seek total extermination

clear enough?
 
H2O boy said:
gladly. since you seem incapable of understanding the printed word

when a people choose to slaughter our citizens we need to retailate. we need to finish the job. so long as one of them lives we need to seek total extermination

clear enough?
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That seems entirely different than what you were saying before. In this case your saying you want to go after individuals responsible for killing our citizens.

Before you were talking about killing anyone with a turban.

Which is it? And are you capable of responding without trolling and acting childish?
 
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