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Originally posted by Ardsgaine
it would be far more tragic if the world's largest free country lost the will to live.
The USA is not the world's largest free country. Canada is.
Originally posted by Ardsgaine
it would be far more tragic if the world's largest free country lost the will to live.
Originally posted by Luis G
how the hell a bomb can fall from a plane by "accident"?, indeed, that's stupidity as Anakin said.
Originally posted by Anakin
Originally posted by Ardsgaine
We are not the world's policeman.
Are you not? You sure act like it.
How about the USA bombing Canadian soldiers in a marked Allied training field? The report was released, and found that the pilots were to blame. They did not have permission to drop bombs but did so anyways.
Ignorant fucking cowards.
Originally posted by Ardsgaine
No, we're not. I know there's a debate about that in this country, but it was a point that Bush made in the presedential debates and something I agree with him on. We should defend ourselves, but we should stay out of disputes that don't concern us-- like Bosnia and Somalia to give two examples.
Shit like that happens all the time in training exercises among US troops. A certain number of US soldiers die every year due to accidents. Are you saying that such accidents never happen with Canadian troops? I had never heard that Canadians were such intellectual giants. It's a new one on me, eh?
Easy to say where you're sitting.
So do all of your postsOriginally posted by Anakin
That shows a total lack of disipline.
Originally posted by *Q*
So do all of your postsOriginally posted by Anakin
That shows a total lack of disipline.
Originally posted by PuterTutor
Canada Friendly fire
It happened in Somalia, but then it wasn't the big bad USA that did, so I guess that makes it ok.
Originally posted by Luis G
what does that suppose to mean s4 ??
Originally posted by Anakin
Lets face the facts. The U.S. shoves its nose in everybody's business from east to west, north to south. Denie it all you want, but you sure as hell act as if you are the world's police force.
Yes, shit like that happens all the time, and it's completely unessessary. And yes, I AM saying that that shit doesn't happen with Canadian troops. When was the last time a Canadian killed one of his own troops? World War II perhaps?
They are cowards for dropping the bomb without permission. They may have thought they were in some sort of danger so they go and drop a bomb on anything that they can see. That shows a total lack of disipline.
Originally posted by Ardsgaine
First of all, it wasn't 'they', it was one pilot. Second of all, you're calling it cowardice, but the reports I've seen describe him as being trigger happy. Having an over-eagerness to engage the enemy isn't cowardice. Lastly, the pilot was not informed ahead of time that there was a training mission going on in the area.
He did, however, violate a direct order to standby, and he was found solely responsible for the accident. I don't know what disciplinary action has been taken against him, but he will probably never fly for the US military again.
Trying to turn that incident into an indictment of the US military is idiotic.
1. Established by who?Originally posted by Anakin
1. It was an established training area.
2. The Canadians took all the necessary measures before heading out for said excercise.
3. The Canadians were not firing at the jet therefore the pilot was not acting in self defense.
4. The U.S. pilot was not told that it was a training area, bad communications between various American forces.
5. He was told to mark the target and wait for orders. He did not wait and dropped the bomb without permission. Had he had waited, ground control could have alerted him to the fact that they were friendlies.
Originally posted by Anakin
I say "they" because there were two F16s, but only one dropped a bomb.
And if you (the US) wants to fight a war, learn to kill only guilty people.