Urghhhh.....

Squiggy said:
kinda like when we plop our infants on Santa's lap and scare the shit out of them... :devious:
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and then perpetuate lie after lie on them year after year? yeah...like that :lloyd:
 
Mare said:
Tue Mar 2,10:48 AM ET


Shiite Muslim Mohammed Jomahaa cuts the head of his son with a sword during the annual ritual to mark Ashoura Day in the southern Lebanese town of Nabatiyeh, Tuesday March 2, 2004. Ashoura day marks the Shiite Muslim's commemoration of the 7th century killing of their most revered Saint Imam Hussein. Al Hussein was a grandson of Islam's prophet Mohammed and is a symbol of martyrdom for Shiites. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)

HOW SICK.... :disgust2: :cuss:
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Sorry Mare but I have to agree with chic. Its their belief, their practice, their culture. What? People want these stamped out like during the colonisation of the american continent?

Native American: *praying etc*
Colonist: Look a heathen practicing his non [insert denomination here] beliefs! shoot him
Native American: *still praying etc*
Colonist: BLAM

And please do not make comments about how it wasnt just americans it was europeans too, I know already. Killing in the name of religion is why I am an aetheist. And I dint get why people have to make perversions of holy texts (i.e Al Quaeda's (pronounce Al Kayeeda guys :p) version of the Qu'Ran) too make people do things....THATS sick.
 
Stewy that was a good example to be honest. and it is truthful. but I dont like them doing it to little kids. thast my problem with it. otherwise I am cool with it. hell id do it. :devious: but not for religious purposes ;)
 
[Stew Quotes] Sorry Mare but I have to agree with chic. Its their belief, their practice, their culture. What? People want these stamped out like during the colonisation of the american continent?

Honey, I didnt have any problem with "their" beliefs, I personally, would not do that either, in religion or not....But if they want to do that ?( ...thats on them. I just feel sorry for the little children that aren't even old enough to ask them not to, or have any say in it. (FYI-I know this also goes for baptism and confirmations, etc..., not having the children have a say, it took me all these years to have this opinion on religion) But, again, to each is own... :winkkiss:
 
steweygrrrr said:
Sorry Mare but I have to agree with chic. Its their belief, their practice, their culture. What? People want these stamped out like during the colonisation of the american continent?
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Here's an example for ya then stewey.....

I neither belong or am affiliated with any formal religious organisation. I don't practice as a doctor and I have no theological qualificatons.

Tomorrow I visit a family and convince them that I have to perform a ceremony on their child that will involve cutting them with a blade, blood will be drawn. They allow me to do it.

When the police pick me up later in the day and ask why i did it and I say "it is the will of God/(insert diety of choice here)"..... what do you think will be the outcome?

I'll either be thrown in jail or locked away in a mental hospital.

Now if I was a member of a formal religion and I cut a child in front of a couple of hundred people who all smiled and threw a celebration because I'd "performed a duty for God"........nothing would happen.

Is it just me..........or does the world deliberatly turn a blind eye to these barbaric acts?? I remember a huge movement to outlaw female circumsicion throughout the world..........yet male circumsicion/ritual scarring and who knows what else is tolerated :eh:

Hmm, bit of a rant there.........but as far as I'm concerned, anyone who would take a blade to a perfectly healthy child...in the name of God or whatever.......should be tried as a criminal. A person has their whole life to decide if they want to follow a religion, it shouldn't be forced on them before they are capable of independent decision making :(
 
Can't disagree, Oz. My point was not that it should be done, but that it isn't just one religion that's barbaric. If you're going to practice yours, you have to let them practice theirs. I find them all to be so much bullshit myself, but that's another argument.
 
chcr said:
Can't disagree, Oz. My point was not that it should be done, but that it isn't just one religion that's barbaric. If you're going to practice yours, you have to let them practice theirs. I find them all to be so much bullshit myself, but that's another argument.
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Exactly......most of us don't have to travel far to find such distastefull practices going on, we've just become hardened to it in our own culture.
 
Mare said:
I just feel sorry for the little children that aren't even old enough to ask them not to, or have any say in it. (
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that is how I feel. Though for teh adults who can make the choice i say do whatever you want. if it isnt affecting others none have the right to complain. if it is hurting you in some way that is different. but for the kids thats what I am against.
 
It's their kids though...and fully sanctioned/accepted by their GVT/Laws/religion. For them...it's all good.

We do things to our kids or allow our children to do things which would anger Muslims (Shiite or otherwise) daily.

Circumcision is one thing...there are others such as earings for little girls under age 1.

Allow - tattoing, piercings, baring their bodies, listening to violent music, drinking and smoking etc...

We ain't all that high and mighty, religion or no religion.
 
as far as tats go bish you have to be 18 or have parent permission. most parents I know wont let their kids do it. you are right about us doing things to our kids that might make them sick.
 
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