URL's that I can access and one's I can't...

PT - yeah...but how do you find the IP addy for a known URL?

Pinging works most times, but not always. :shrug:
 
Luis G said:
But it will tell you the IP of the host you're tracing, first line
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Yup...but if you tap in that addy into IE or whatever you're using...you don't get to PiL...you get to Mirlyn's personal web-site...which is nice if you like looking at his pics (Fabulous BTW)..but not if you're actually trying to backdoor your way into PiL :D
 
MrBishop said:
Yup...but if you tap in that addy into IE or whatever you're using...you don't get to PiL...you get to Mirlyn's personal web-site...which is nice if you like looking at his pics (Fabulous BTW)..but not if you're actually trying to backdoor your way into PiL :D
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ohhh, it is probably something like http://24.248.156.100/playingitloud/

I don't know if there's a way to know other than to look up in the DNS tables.
 
MrBishop said:
PT - yeah...but how do you find the IP addy for a known URL?

Pinging works most times, but not always. :shrug:
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C:\>nslookup
Default Server: ns1.kiva.net
Address: 216.9.137.1

> set type=a
> www.otcentral.com
Server: ns1.kiva.net
Address: 216.9.137.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: otcentral.com
Address: 64.235.243.33
Aliases: www.otcentral.com

>
 
PT said:
Ok, I don't think anyone really answered why, so here goes.

Every computer on the internet has an IP address. This includes any servers that are storing the information you want, such as this forum. There are also computers out there called DNS's. A DNS is a Domain Name Server. What it does is takes the address you type in the address bar and translates it to the IP address that is assigned to it. Such as here. I type www.otcentral.com The request goes to the DNS for the IP address. Once you have a corresponding IP address, then you can access the page. You can type the IP in directly and bypass the DNS completely if you wish, which is what you are doing when you come here.

The reason for all this is simple. Would you rather go to www.google.com or 64.233.167.147? They both will take you to the same place, but google is much easier for the brain to wrap around.
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Oooooh riiiiiiiggghhhht! Thanks PT! (Living up to your name today!!!)

So... the numbers are the same thing and probably what is actually read but the written text is obviously easier for us numpty laypersons to use!

But how come the numebr one lets me access OTC when the normal one won't? :) :tardbang:

Is it a glitch in my work's firewall? (Three times! I own that word!!!! Yes!)
 
PT said:
Oh, and get yer ass back to work.
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:la: :D

And Luis... I get some site with a sheaf of corn on it and band names/track names on it from the link... I think it may be Mirylin's site! :mope:

Wow! This is turning into a real IT quest innit...

"Who so ever findeth the Bear'd one a way into the kingdom of PIL... shall be forever reveared as the ultimate cyber warrior... he will be acclaimed and given much karma!"
 
Wow.....haven't been here in too long, it seems. ;)

The server I use for the two sites utilizes the typical "virtualhost" directive in apache, allowing it to serve multiple sites off one IP address regardless of DNS (PT is correct). It knows what site to give you based on what site you asked for.

My router and everything behind it is unreachable unless you are considered blessed traffic (HTTP/Mail/etc). As a whole, ICMP (ping, traceroute, etc) traffic is denied, as Prof said, for security reasons. This is not unusual, and even some ISPs are no longer allowing outgoing ping/tracert.

BTW: If http://1.2.3.4 returns http://abc.com, then http://1.2.3.4/folder is almost always equivalent to http://abc.com/folder, hence the 404 error given when its tried with my IP (note the reported server name). ;)


The sugar coated version: No, the server will not respond to IP requests with PiL. Traceroute won't work due to the firewalls.

Just out of curiosity, do your domain filters work with proxy servers (hint)? :D
 
Mirlyn said:
Wow.....haven't been here in too long, it seems. ;)

The server I use for the two sites utilizes the typical "virtualhost" directive in apache, allowing it to serve multiple sites off one IP address regardless of DNS (PT is correct). It knows what site to give you based on what site you asked for.

My router and everything behind it is unreachable unless you are considered blessed traffic (HTTP/Mail/etc). As a whole, ICMP (ping, traceroute, etc) traffic is denied, as Prof said, for security reasons. This is not unusual, and even some ISPs are no longer allowing outgoing ping/tracert.

BTW: If http://1.2.3.4 returns http://abc.com, then http://1.2.3.4/folder is almost always equivalent to http://abc.com/folder, hence the 404 error given when its tried with my IP (note the reported server name). ;)


The sugar coated version: No, the server will not respond to IP requests with PiL. Traceroute won't work due to the firewalls.

Just out of curiosity, do your domain filters work with proxy servers (hint)? :D
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Mir!

I didn't understand any of that!!! I said I'm a bear of very little brain! Scale it down a bit!!! :D

Does that mean its a no go?

I have no idea about my firewall or proxy servers :shrug:

Don't you have a number thingy?... surely you have!!!
 
ClaireBear said:
Mir!

I didn't understand any of that!!! I said I'm a bear of very little brain! Scale it down a bit!!! :D

Does that mean its a no go?

I have no idea about my firewall or proxy servers :shrug:

Don't you have a number thingy?... surely you have!!!
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I do, and as you/Bish found out, it won't work with anything but my personal website (for mail reasons). :) So no, it won't work.
 
Mirlyn said:
I do, and as you/Bish found out, it won't work with anything but my personal website (for mail reasons). :) So no, it won't work.
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So... you don't have a numbery one?

Oh well... twas worth a try!
 
No, he didn't say he didn't have a number thingy, he does have one, it just won't work for your purposes.
 
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