Usama & saddam are scared now

Gonz

Gonz

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BAGHDAD — Guerrillas who attack civilians in Iraq for collaborating with the U.S.-led coalition are committing war crimes, a human rights group said Saturday.

International humanitarian law forbids targeting civilians, New York-based Human Rights Watch noted in a statement.

"Civilians working for the occupying power are not legitimate targets of attack," Human Rights Watch said.

The statement cited attacks on translators, government officials and community leaders, including Aquila al-Hashimi, a member of Iraq's U.S.-appointed Governing Council (search) who was gunned down near her Baghdad home on Sept. 20.

"All Iraqi civilians are protected by the Geneva Conventions (search)," said Joe Stork, acting executive director of the Middle East and North Africa division. "It doesn't matter whether they sympathize with the U.S. occupation, or with the insurgents."

Human Rights Watch also cited the deaths of Sargoun Murado, who represented Assyrian Christians (search) on the municipal council of the southern city of Basra; two prominent judges, Muhan Jabir al-Shuwaili and Ismail Yusif; and Faris Abdul-Razzaq al-Asam, Baghdad's deputy mayor.
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I just know there is a smartassed remark or 20 in here somewhere.
 
im glad for once that they will get theirs as they are targeting civilians which is the equivalent of attacking innocent targets which makes me sick
 
Why can't you ever see the conflict in your logic, Gonz? You tell us we're still at war. Which means that ANY Iraqi who helps the US is committing treason. But you think they are criminals for killing them....Can you say 'double standard'?
 
Double standard? The Iraqi government has been removed. The US is temporarily in charge, so anybody killing GI's or Iraqi civilians is committing treason against the acting government, us.

You got it chcr
 
Gonz said:
Double standard? The Iraqi government has been removed. The US is temporarily in charge, so anybody killing GI's or Iraqi civilians is committing treason against the acting government, us.

You got it chcr
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Make up your damn mind. Whenever we do something that might be questionable, you say "we're still at war." But when they continue to fight, you call them terrorrist or whatever....You are trying to claim a position that justifies anything you want. And that can't be. Is the war over or not?
 
anybody killing GI's or Iraqi civilians is committing treason against the acting government, us.
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No, the war is not over & you damn well know it's not. This is a war on terrorism & its supporters. We're now warring with terrorists & terrorism supporters, mostly but not exclusively in Iraq. Better than in Trenton wouldn't you say. (bad example maybe :) )
 
Gonz said:
No, the war is not over & you damn well know it's not. This is a war on terrorism & its supporters. We're now warring with terrorists & terrorism supporters, mostly but not exclusively in Iraq. Better than in Trenton wouldn't you say. (bad example maybe :) )
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Why should the Iraqis or any of the terrorists you are at war with comply with the Geneva convention when you don't?

You cannot take the moral high ground and then ignore human rights.
 
Gonz said:
No, the war is not over & you damn well know it's not. This is a war on terrorism & its supporters. We're now warring with terrorists & terrorism supporters, mostly but not exclusively in Iraq. Better than in Trenton wouldn't you say. (bad example maybe :) )
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Then THEY are a legitimate enemy and the people helping us are committing treason. Like I said, make up your damn mind. You can't have it both ways.
 
How are we not complying with the Geneva Convention?

As a matter of fact I believe the terrorists are expressly breaking several of the articles (no warring around schools, hospitals, etc)
 
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Then THEY are a legitimate enemy and the people helping us are committing treason. Like I said, make up your damn mind. You can't have it both ways.
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They don't have a previously set right to leadership so the attackers are being treacherous, not the civilians.
 
Gonz said:
How are we not complying with the Geneva Convention?

As a matter of fact I believe the terrorists are expressly breaking several of the articles (no warring around schools, hospitals, etc)
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Holding prisoners without trial is against the geneva convention. If they are citizens of a country you are currently at war with then there are certain rules you must follow, I won't go in to them now but if they are not citizens of a country you are currently at war with then it breaks any number of international statutes. Even Iraq holds trials for their prisoners however rigged they may be...
 
This is a war on terrorism & its supporters.
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Now Iraq is about terrorism:confused:

Where does one sign up for email updates on what the war is currently about .


Bad "Suicide" Bombers we're gonna charge you with War Crimes ,WTF
 
Address to the UN Sept 12, 2002 Speech text

This threat hides within many nations, including my own. In cells and camps, terrorists are plotting further destruction, and building new bases for their war against civilization. And our greatest fear is that terrorists will find a shortcut to their mad ambitions when an outlaw regime supplies them with the technologies to kill on a massive scale.

In one place -- in one regime -- we find all these dangers, in their most lethal and aggressive forms, exactly the kind of aggressive threat the United Nations was born to confront.

If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will immediately end all support for terrorism and act to suppress it, as all states are required to do by U.N. Security Council resolutions.

If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will cease persecution of its civilian population, including Shi'a, Sunnis, Kurds, Turkomans, and others, again as required by Security Council resolutions.

If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will release or account for all Gulf War personnel whose fate is still unknown. It will return the remains of any who are deceased, return stolen property, accept liability for losses resulting from the invasion of Kuwait, and fully cooperate with international efforts to resolve these issues, as required by Security Council resolutions.

If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will immediately end all illicit trade outside the oil-for-food program. It will accept U.N. administration of funds from that program, to ensure that the money is used fairly and promptly for the benefit of the Iraqi people.

Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause, and a great strategic goal.
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Don't make me dig out all the speeches that said this was a multi-faceted war. I can pull up the "reasons" as fast as you can continually deny he said them. Suppoerter of terrorism, freedom for the Iraqi people, WMDs, tyranny, genocide...the list goes on, as does the war on terrorism.
 
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