Vindication

Gonz

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for my friends flavio, Squiggy & the rest who know who you are...

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From the 9/11 Commission Staff Statement 15
Dated for release June 16, 2004
"Since the September 11 attacks and the defeat of the Taliban, as Qaeda's funding has decreased significantly. The arrests or deaths of several important financial facilitators have decreased the amount of money al Qaeda has raised and increased the costs and difficulty of raising and moving that money.

"Some entirely corrupt charities are now out of business, with many of their principals killed or captured, although some charities may still be providing support to al Qaeda.

"Moreover, it appears that the al Qaeda attacks within Saudi Arabia in May and November 2003 have reduced - perhaps drastically - at Qaeda's ability to raise funds from Saudi sources. Both an increase in Saudi enforcement and a more negative perception of al Qaeda by potential donors have cut its income." [END OF EXCERPT]

"Prior to 9/11, al Qaeda was a centralized organization which used Afghanistan as a war room to strategize, plan attacks, and dispatch operatives worldwide." But now, says the Commission, "Bin Ladin's* seclusion [has] forced operational commanders and cell leaders to assume greater authority; they are now making the command decisions previously made by him." [END OF EXCERPT]

"Al Qaeda today is more a loose collection of regional networks with a greatly weakened central organization," it's hard not to conclude President Bush's war on terror is making significant progress.

Newsmax

Where is the bold blaring NY Times headline on that???
 
Auction off all of our nuclear weapons to the highest bidder on the world market,
and use every dollar of the proceeds to pay down the national debt.
 
i guess that we all hope that reality will prove that to be true. i am positive that the wars fought in afghanistan and iraq will provide those people a better life, at least in the future.

june 16...i'm surprised i didn't stumble over this myself. damn the media; not fair to bash on everything that goes wrong, and leave things out if there is some good news as well.
 
  • Electricity is now spread evenly across the country. Baghdad, which used to be favored under Saddam Hussein's regime, now gets 8-12 hours of electricity a day compared to 20 hours before the war.
  • The overall number of telephones in Iraq, including cell phones, is up nearly 46 percent since before the war. Cellular phone usage has soared with more than 429,300 subscribers nationwide. More than 201,000 subscribers have had their land telephone lines reinstated, but there are still only 784,200 land lines, compared to 833,000 before the war.
  • More than 2,200 schools and 240 hospitals have been "rehabilitated," the coalition said - though the amount of work performed has varied.
  • As of January 2004, 860 secondary school master trainers, and 31,772 secondary teachers and administrative staff, were trained in programs funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development.
  • School supply kits have been distributed to 1.5 million secondary school students, 808,000 primary school students and 81,735 primary school teachers.
  • About 8.7 million new math and science textbooks have been distributed. The World Bank has issued a grant for $40 million for new textbooks for 6 million primary and secondary students.
  • Twenty Iraqis have received Fulbright grants to study abroad, and six are women.
  • More than 77,000 public works jobs have been created through the National Employment Program.
  • Sixteen provincial councils have been established, along with 78 district councils, 192 city or sub-district councils, and 392 neighborhood councils.
  • Health-care spending in Iraq has increased some 30 times over prewar levels. Between June 2003 and April 2004, more than 3 million children under five were vaccinated against diseases. A U.S. grant to the Iraqi Nursing Association will go toward training more nurses and buying uniforms, bed linens and nurses' kits.
  • The new Iraqi dinar has been stable, and its value has risen by 25 percent over last fall, when the conversion was under way.

Seatlepi
 
When the Israeli government was taking out the Hamas leaders the US government and military complained that cutting the head off the serpent does nothing but push the militants under ground where they are harder to detect until they strike.Splintering Al Quaeda into smaller harder to track groups isn't a victory then.Its also been reported that since the US entered Iraq that Al Quaedas numbers have actually increased.One of the most successful acts of US intelligence is intercepting "chatter" as a way of predicting strikes if these cells are now acting independantly from one another and no longer have a central source ,there isn't going to be chatter just the end result.
 
Cellular phone usage has soared with more than 429,300 subscribers nationwide.
I thought we were supposed to be making life better for these people. :lol:
 
Glad that things are going "better" in Iraq.
Glad that Al Quaida "seems" splintered.

Despite seeming splintered and decentralized..they're still operating and still causing terror. Saddam's in jail, but Bin Ladin is still out there somewhere. Either he's dead (which means that he's Martyred) or he's alive and recovering. Recovering both physically and organizationally whilst he's being ignored.

Why is it that everyone is concentrating on groups with possible affiliations to Al Quaida and not on Al Quaida itself? What happened to the great search for justice and reciprication? Could it be that the war in Iraq has actually become more important than what happened on that fateful day in September? :confused:

Lest we forget.
 
Winky said:
Auction off all of our nuclear weapons to the highest bidder on the world market,
and use every dollar of the proceeds to pay down the national debt.

You've got it almost right. How about getting rid of a few of them through dismantling and stop building smart-bombs at 3/4 Million$ each and use THAT saved money to pay off the debt?

Smart-bombs and Stealth bombers look great on camera, but not as great as a well-run economy.
 
Bish, Bish, Bish. Standing in the A.B. line of despondent pessimists. Sad. It's a much better view over here in the pragmatic line. I suppose all the GI's in Afghanistan are there for nothing, just twidlling their thumbs & playing hopscotch with the native children.

It ain't over yet.
 
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