Where is the greatest threat to world peace to be found?

Biggest threat to world peace in the future?

  • North Korea

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • China

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • Palestine

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Israel

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • The United States

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • Russia

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Afghanistan

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Syria

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Al Quaida

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • MrBishop's posts

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • Muslims in general

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Total voters
    19
MrBishop said:
ahem

So...she's an Imam now? Studied the Qu'ran in depth, read it several times and is qualified to guage what the true meaning of Jihad is? I'm guessing that she's basing her information on news outlets and web-sites that have done their own slanted interpretations aimed specifically at attacking a religion and equivalating it to being a terrorist by birth.

Both the Qu'ran and the Bible (and many other books for that matter) are open to interpretation by any kookball with a teleprompter. They're also both open to any kookball with access to the web...which this woman strikes me as being.

An old English teacher of mine once refered to this as "Verbal Diarrhea" - You take solid information, churn it up and dish out inconsistant chunks of shit barely recognizeable as the original.

If you read what the Qu'ran says about jihad, without any "slanted interpretation", what Sharon said seems to be fairly accurate with only the slightest exaggeration. Keep in mind that I am neither a theologist nor a scholar of global politics.

http://www.interesting-information.com/islam/jihad.htm
 
freako104 said:
Generally it is supposed to be within. An internal struggle to do good.

Sort of.


The Spiritual Significance of Jihad said:
from: http://www.al-islam.org/al-serat/jihad-nasr.htm

To understand the spiritual significance of jihad and its wide application to nearly every aspect of human life as understood by Islam, it is necessary to remember that Islam bases itself upon the idea of establishing equilibrium within the being of man as well as in the human society where he functions and fulfills the goals of his earthly life. This equilibrium, which is the terrestrial reflection of Divine Justice and the necessary condition for peace in the human domain, is the basis upon which the soul takes its flight towards that peace which, to use Christian terms, 'passeth understanding'.

If Christian morality sees the aim of the spiritual life and its own morality as based on the vertical flight towards that perfection and ideal which is embodied in Christ, Islam sees it in the establishment of an equilibrium both outward and inward as the necessary basis for the vertical ascent.

The very stability of Islamic society over the centuries, the immutability of Islamic norms embodied in the Shari'ah, and the timeless character of traditional Islamic civilization which is the consequence of its permanent and immutable prototype are all reflections of both the ideal of equilibrium and its realization as is so evident in the teachings of the Shari'ah (or Divine Law) as well as works of Islamic art, that equilibrium which is inseparable from the very name of islam as being related to salam or peace.

The preservation of equilibrium in this world, however, does not mean simply a static or inactive passivity since life by nature implies movement. In the face of the contingencies of the world of change, of the withering effects of time, of the vicissitudes of terrestrial existence, to remain in equilibrium requires continuous exertion. It means carrying out jihad at every stage of life.

Human nature being what it is, given to forgetfulness and the conquest of our immortal soul by the carnal soul or passions, the very process of life of both the individual and the human collectivity implies the ever-present danger of the loss of equilibrium and the fact of falling into the state of disequilibrium which if allowed to continue cannot but lead to disintegration on the individual level and chaos on the scale of community life.

To avoid this tragic end and to fulfill the entelechy of the human state which is the realization of unity (al-tawhid) or total integration, Muslims as both individuals and members of Islamic society must carry out jihad, that is they must exert themselves at all moments of life to fight a battle both inward and outward against those forces that if not combatted will destroy that equilibrium which is the necessary condition for the spiritual life of the person and the functioning of human society. This fact is especially true if society is seen as a collectivity which bears the imprint of the Divine Norm rather than an antheap of contending and opposing units and forces.
 
And those who perform jihad for Us, We shall certainly guide them in Our ways, and God is surely with the doers of good. (Quran XXXIX; 69)


seems to defer from


And the earth will shine with the glory of its Lord: the Record(of Deeds) will be placed open; the prophets and witnesses will be brought forward; and a just decision will be placed upon them; and they will not be wronged


Generally the Jihad is supposed to be within. Some though will put it externally. Ironically they are committing what can be conferred as the greatest of sins. That being they are killing in the name of their own god.
 
*sigh* This'll get me catigated pretty good.

1. Who started the current one (please don't say there isn't a current one)?
2. Who do you really think (be honest now) will initiate the next military attack on another nation?

The answer seems obvious to me. I hope I'm wrong.
 
United States of America

their heavy handed application of their idiology alienates other nations.

the fact that they voted themselves the worlds policeman is another problem.
 
paul_valaru said:
but only americans voted
Claimeth the Germans & the Canadians & the French & the Haitians & the Brazilians & the Spaniards & the Poles & the Aussies & the Japanese & the Koreans & the....


The only NAY came form the USA.
 
chcr said:
*sigh* This'll get me catigated pretty good.

1. Who started the current one (please don't say there isn't a current one)?
2. Who do you really think (be honest now) will initiate the next military attack on another nation?

The answer seems obvious to me. I hope I'm wrong.




I would say that if it is not us, then it will be a country that has a problem with us. My guess would be North Korea since Kung Jim Il hates America
 
freako104 said:
I would say that if it is not us, then it will be a country that has a problem with us. My guess would be North Korea since Kung Jim Il hates America

My guess is that Canada will attack Denmark.
 
paul_valaru said:
United States of America

their heavy handed application of their idiology alienates other nations.

the fact that they voted themselves the worlds policeman is another problem.

Well...aside from the mispelling of ideology, there's one huge glaring mistake in this statement. The US is not the worlds policeman. The world thinks so because we have one of the largest, and best trained, militaries in the world. Whenever there's a scare, the world calls us for help, and that's why we look like the worlds police force. Perhaps we should just refuse those calls next time, eh?
 
The thing is...where would we land all the troops for the invasion? The island's only 1.2 sq kms. You can barely deploy a battalion :shrug:
 
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