Work hard for your money.....
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MrBishop
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Rose said:
We've had this discussion before, but what the hey... Teachers make 30-40k and nurses make 35-45k/year... turckers can make upwards of twice that much. So...the people who are teaching the next generation and the people helping to keep us alive and comforteable now and are taking care of the senoirs in convlescent homes deserve less than someone driving a truck all day? Do they deserve less than half the salary? Are they worth less or just worthless?
Sorry Rose, sorry Gonz...but...nope. They should be making more than truck drivers and sanitation experts, more than postal workers, more than pretty much any blue-collar job you can name. Problem is...blue-collar workers have the stronger unions and have more members than other jobs do, so their say goes. This has nothing to do with reality, nor fairness...it's union-beurocracy and it sucks.
Again. My appologies.
MrBishop
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Rose said:But no one said anything about teacher's salaries, Bish. I simply agreed that Gonz and truck-drivers in general aren't overpaid. We can justify or un-justify (for lack of a better term) any paid position when comparing it to another.
We're not comparing apples to apples then. The reason that Gonz poked me (Postal boy) with the salary thing is that I was comparing his salary to teachers in another thread.
Is he overpaid...well, he's definatly not underpaid. Must be just right...
Hey Gonz...tell the big guys standing behind me that I don't need to know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried right now, m'kay?
MrBishop said:You making 60k+ ? Yeah...sorry, you're overpaid. Don't mean to say that I want to take your money away from you. You do good work, and I'm sure that you're a safe driver, but I'm comparing your salary vs. that of teachers and nurses.
If their salary went up to above yours, then your salary would be just fine by me. Your union would just scream though and your salary would go up to.
I'm more upset about the inequality of pay than your salary, Gonz. If they paid you 100k+ per year, I'd be happy as a clam for you...hell, I'd go out and get my license, increase my caffeine intake and we could chat on the CB all friggin day if you'd like.
Is not that Gonz is overpaid, the others are the ones underpaid.
chatty kathy
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I have to disagree.....I like unions.....they help keep my job and fight for more $$ and bennies...There are some crappy ones out there but I must say my union has aways stood behind me.Gonz said:
Inkara1
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Keep in mind that professional athletes make millions, sometimes tens of millions of dollars to play a game. Given that, I can see why a man in charge of running a multi-billion-dollar corporation every day would think he's worth a couple million a year.
As for me, I push carts and load bags of concrete into people's cars at Home Depot for $8.25 an hour and deliver pizzas for $6.75 an hour. I'm lucky to bring home $1300 or so a month after taxes, especially since the Home Depot I work at just hired a bunch of new people and is now cutting back on hours. That's the kind of thinking that made Home Depot number one in the home-improvement business, don't you know, that and opening up four stores in the Fresno area, population around 500,000. Fresno/Clovis has as many Home Depots as Wal-Marts.
As for me, I push carts and load bags of concrete into people's cars at Home Depot for $8.25 an hour and deliver pizzas for $6.75 an hour. I'm lucky to bring home $1300 or so a month after taxes, especially since the Home Depot I work at just hired a bunch of new people and is now cutting back on hours. That's the kind of thinking that made Home Depot number one in the home-improvement business, don't you know, that and opening up four stores in the Fresno area, population around 500,000. Fresno/Clovis has as many Home Depots as Wal-Marts.
Inkara1
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Rose said:Inkara - sounds like you might want to switch to Lowes.
They just opened a new one here. But it's in its grand opening stages, so in probably a month or so I'd be looking for a new job. I'd applied at Costco a few months ago for $10/hour, but they told me I'd have to quit both my jobs and basically hand my ass over to them, then be looking for a new job in January.
A.B.Normal
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Inkara1 said:
Thats odd most of the permanent Parttime people at the Costco I work at have a second job.I'm assuming you were applying for seasonal ,which would mean you would need an open avaiability,so trying to work around a second/third job would be difficult?
I work partime at Costco and the wife and I have several Cleaning Contracts.Once I reach top step at Costco I'll be dropping the cleaning contracts.Costco pays pretty weel when you consider the benefits package (full medical/partial dental/retirement package ) even if your only partime.You also get a raise every 800hrs worked and hte amounts are setout in a colllective agreement ,so you don't work you @ss of only to get screwed over at review time because the Manager is an Asshole.
In review I currently work hard for my money ,but hopefully things will get a little esier in about a year.
chatty kathy
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I don't see how they have outgrown their usefullness when you have sub-contractors waiting to screw you out of a job and the union fights to keep all your bennies and $$ plus your job........they also have lawyers ready to fight for you......ok...after 25 yrs of service to be covered full medical .....you and spouse...for the rest of your life how can you beat it!!Gonz said:
We'll use this as a test case
3% per annum-not a problem.
COLA-to paraphrase Sen Daschle; "our only raise was a COLA & that doesn't count"
Signing Bonus? A SIGNING BONUS? WTF? Are hood pin alignment specialists now professional ball players?
Unions create inflation. There is not one single reason to pay $19,000 for a friggin mass produced Taurus. It's worth $6899 MSRP before UAW markups.
BTW-a $1350. signing bous for 101000 peopel is ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS
3% per annum-not a problem.
COLA-to paraphrase Sen Daschle; "our only raise was a COLA & that doesn't count"
Signing Bonus? A SIGNING BONUS? WTF? Are hood pin alignment specialists now professional ball players?
Unions create inflation. There is not one single reason to pay $19,000 for a friggin mass produced Taurus. It's worth $6899 MSRP before UAW markups.
BTW-a $1350. signing bous for 101000 peopel is ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS
