Your thoughts on porn...

Aunty Em said:
She sounds normal to me. If we were meant to be stick insects we wouldn't have tits or bums. It's all the fashion designers who think we should look flat chested with no hips. Real women aren't like that, but advertisers try to indoctrinate us from an earlier and earlier age and then we wonder why our kids get anorexia and bulimia? Ban the adverts I say!

You can't blame it on the fashion designers as if women were helpless automatons being programmed by the images they see on a TV screen. Men get bombarded with the same images but the majority of them don't go along with that ideal of beauty.

In the first place, they don't want a woman with no ass or tits unless they're still carrying the ideal of beauty that they had in grade school. The technical term for that condition is 'pedophillia'. In the second place, they're not stringent about a woman meeting exacting standards of height, weight and proportion unless they are obsessive perfectionists. The technical term for that condition is 'anal retentive.'

I think a lot of women go along with the Madison Avenue ideal of beauty because it gives them precedence over other women. They use it to establish a pecking order. It's a universally accepted way of measuring themselves against other women. "Ha! My ass may be large, but it's smaller than hers!"

Women might also compare themselves to others on the basis of wealth, intelligence, moral character, etc, but beauty trumps everything. It's the rock bottom measurement. The one thing that women want no matter what else they have.

Men use strength/size for the same thing. It's typically measured as the ability to kick someone else's ass. Like beauty for women, being able to kick someone's ass trumps everything. Said smugly: "See that prick with the BMW and the Armani suit? I kicked his ass in high school." Intelligence doesn't matter either, because any debate can be decided by kicking the other guy's ass. Trial by combat: "See, I was right, 'cause I kicked your ass." This is why Bill Gates sometimes lies in bed at night thinking about that asshole he knew in high school, and thinking, "damn, I wish I had kicked his ass!"

Back when I was doing construction work, I got into a shoving match with this guy at work and ended up firing him. He lost his job for being an asshole, but he was going around afterwards telling people, "if I see him again I'm going to kick his ass!" That was all the consolation he needed for being a sorry, no-job-having motherfucker.

:shrug:
 
but beauty trumps everything. It's the rock bottom measurement. The one thing that women want no matter what else they have. Men use strength/size for the same thing.

So why DO most girls wanna look like Barbie and most guys like Action man if it isn't something that's been drilled into them from a young age? It never used to be like that - I could have cared less when I was 8 or 9(I'm 47 btw), it's really changed in the last 25 years. Are you trying to tell me that the constant bombardment from advertisers and other similar sources has no effect on our children or their self image? I'd really like to know why there are so many little girls of 8 and 9 walking around in fashions I wouldn't put on a sixteen-year old because they are too damn tarty? It isn't their mums who are doing it, it's what the kids want. Maybe it's not the same in the states.... :shrug:

I think a develomental psychologist would have a field day with you. Unfortunately I'm not one and can't argue from that position of knowledge about the development of the child and the effect of outside influences on the human psyche.
 
Aunty Em said:
So why DO most girls wanna look like Barbie and most guys like Action man if it isn't something that's been drilled into them from a young age?
I don't want to look like Action Man, whoever the hell he is. I think the most important thing is how smart they are. I would rather hang out with a short, ugly smart kid (Which I do, and he is totally cool) than the tall msucular idiots.
 
A whole new thread "It is the responsibilty of the parent to guide our children, including what they wear"

But anyways, I think when a person is comfortable and or confidant in thier appearance, then they can carry just about anything off. Even as a big gal. Sure, it would be nice to have that svelt look, but I do just fine as I am - don't you think, Unc? ;)

Sexy is as sexy does.
 
*peeks up from behind a well thumbed copy of October 79 Playboy* .. huh? umm... sure thing hot stuff. ;) youre tops in my ledger. *goes back to the Playboy*
 
spirit id say to an extent but only until the kid is about 18. after that it should be upto the kid. and sure they can wear sexy outfits but who determines what is sexy? to me as long as the kid is safe is the most important thing
 
Spirit said:
A whole new thread "It is the responsibilty of the parent to guide our children, including what they wear"

Girls in my school wear tight pants and shirts where you can see their belly buttons. And I can't say I have a problem with that.
I personally wear those baggy nylon zip-off pants that were all the rage 2 years ago, along with hawaiian flower shirts over white t-shirts. Another thing that was popular in sixth grade.
Now kids all wear jeans and either
a)sports jerseys (either from their teams or big professional teams)
b)sweatshirts (Property of abercromie atheletic department,etc...)
c)advertising shirts (Arizona Jeans, etc...)
d)funny shirts (Don't make me get my flying monkeys, I like to annoy my parents, etc...)
e)shirts that make people think you are crazy (like me)
 
Altron said:
Aunty Em said:
So why DO most girls wanna look like Barbie and most guys like Action man if it isn't something that's been drilled into them from a young age?
I don't want to look like Action Man, whoever the hell he is. I think the most important thing is how smart they are. I would rather hang out with a short, ugly smart kid (Which I do, and he is totally cool) than the tall msucular idiots.

I think you call Action Man GI Joe or something like that. I can't speak for what it's like in the states, only for some of what seems to be happening over here in the UK. Everything just seems to be geared up to making kids into miniture adults rather than just letting them enjoy being kids.
 
Aunty Em said:
Everything just seems to be geared up to making kids into miniture adults rather than just letting them enjoy being kids.

A minature adult would describe me perfectly, except i'm 6'1"
:D
 
Altron said:
Aunty Em said:
Everything just seems to be geared up to making kids into miniture adults rather than just letting them enjoy being kids.

A minature adult would describe me perfectly, except i'm 6'1"
:D

Don't your parents use weed-killer then?:p :p :p ;)
 
Nope.
Whenever we are at a party, they make me walk around so everyone can see how tall I am, and I have to stand next to everyone to see who is taller.
 
Altron said:
Nope.
Whenever we are at a party, they make me walk around so everyone can see how tall I am, and I have to stand next to everyone to see who is taller.

Aren't parents wonderful! They really know how to make you self-conscious about something.:(
 
Spirit said:
A whole new thread "It is the responsibilty of the parent to guide our children, including what they wear"

Yeah, we've digressed a bit... did you find out what you wanted to know about people's attitudes towards porn? Should I be looking for you in a future edition of Playboy? :D

But anyways, I think when a person is comfortable and or confidant in thier appearance, then they can carry just about anything off. Even as a big gal. Sure, it would be nice to have that svelt look, but I do just fine as I am - don't you think, Unc? ;)

I'm sure you do. :) I think self-confidence is sexy.

Sexy is as sexy does.

:)
 
unclehobart said:
*peeks up from behind a well thumbed copy of October 79 Playboy* .. huh? umm... sure thing hot stuff. ;) youre tops in my ledger. *goes back to the Playboy*

*Looks over Unc's shoulder*

Is that the one with Bo Derek in it? She wasn't all that (too emaciated), but the Japanese girl that was in the pics with her was mighty fine.
 
BACK TO PORN! :yell:

I like porn

I'd like to make porn, but not to show other people, just for me and my honey.
 
Nixy said:
I like porn
Porn of men, or porn of women?
Nixy said:
I'd like to make porn, but not to show other people, just for me and my honey.
Go ahead, buy a digital cam, strip, and take pics of yourself. Then show them to your honey.
 
Nixy said:
BACK TO PORN! :yell:

I like porn

I'd like to make porn, but not to show other people, just for me and my honey.

I actually quite like watching some porn, but preferably with my partner at the time. I actually know quite a few women who do.
 
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