Bloomberg on the proposed Muslim community center

Discussion in 'Kiddie Korner' started by spike, Aug 7, 2010.

  1. Winky

    Winky Well-Known Member

    NYC ground zero Mosque funded by Iran

    Once again supposedly intelligent people arguing a moot point.
    Islam by its very nature is a set of beliefs wholly at odds with
    western civilization and any form of democratic republic self
    governance. But hey wtf who cares we are in a headlong race
    to remake our country into a new Soviet Socialist Republic
    so who cares about the Caliphate?

    At least the CCCP had nukes pointed at us and could field
    a credible conventional military force. A few truck bombs
    exploding in your neighborhood occasionally would be minor
    inconvenience unless one of them contained a nuclear weapon.

    Looks like the crucial date for the fueling of the Iranian weapons
    production reactor by the Russians will pass without any Israeli action.

    Oy gevalt
     
  2. spike

    spike New Member

    I'd wager you completely made that up and have no evidence to support it.


    Oh noez! Better stop those church bells too,


    No.
     
  3. spike

    spike New Member

    Sure, and Fred Phelps speaks for all christians.

    A few may say that. But again, they don't speak for all or most muslims. This is simple fact that you're not getting cat.
     
  4. spike

    spike New Member

    http://gawker.com/5614428/the-hallowed-ground-near-the-ground-zero-mosque/gallery/
     
  5. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

    who is fred phelps?
    a wiki didn't find anything on my search

    It is you who are not getting it.
    I'm using the assumed perspective Of BinLaden, according to what he's said.
    If you are not on board with him, and the Taliban, you aren't devout enough to be called muslim.

    Do you support Hamas?
     
  6. Winky

    Winky Well-Known Member

    NYC ground zero Mosque funded by Hamas

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    Good one Cat ;)
     
  7. spike

    spike New Member

    Here ya go
    http://tinyurl.com/nq4md2

    Oh you're saying if he says it it must be true? That would be like if Phelps said if you're not down with his agenda you're not devout enough to be called christian.

    It doesn't fucking matter what they say. They do not speak for the group.

    I don't support Hamas or Israel. But what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Just trolling? I thought you were better than that.
     
  8. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

    oh, westboro again.
    They are plants man. Haven't you figured that out?
    I guess that's why the left always points to them.

    trolling? no (I profile, remember?)
    I just wanted clarification on that, as ...all these years, and I still wasn't clear on your position,
    and it is mildly related.
     
  9. spike

    spike New Member

    Link to evidence they are plants? Perhaps Bin Laden is just a plant too.

    Regardless there are plenty of nutcases in all religions that would like to speak for the whole religion but they don't.
     
  10. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

    regardless even, of if they are plants or not, they haven't Killed people like
    BinLaden, and some other so-called Muslim groups.

    BTW, just because there isn't a web link on something doesn't qualify it as true or not.
    I don't know if there's a link or not, I haven't looked. Be my guest.
     
  11. Winky

    Winky Well-Known Member

    How many suicide bombers
    do ya think westboro could muster?
     
  12. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

    me? I don't think they could.
     
  13. ResearchMonkey

    ResearchMonkey Well-Known Member

    Oh thats right, you deemed-it-our-of-your-ass so it must be true.

    [​IMG]




    The sound of Church bells isn't what inspired a bunch of Muslims to babble Allah hu Akabar as they flew civilian aircraft into civilian targets on Manhattan.

    No, it was the action of people who planned the attack in Mosques. It was and still is Mosque that are central in planning and participating in terrorist activity.

    You can say you don't believe it and demand a link, but Its true and you know it.

    I'm impressed at just how much you hate my nation and our American values.
    .
     
  14. spike

    spike New Member

    No, I noticed that cat had supplied no evidence to back up his claim.

    Doesn't matter. Do you have some evidence that it was a call to prayer that inspired them? That wouldn't matter either.

    Most muslims are not extremists.

    Maye in some mosques. How is it you are unable to make this distinction? You're just prone to irrational generalizations?

    You hate my nation and our American values. Freedom of religion was one of the founding values after all and you hate it.

    Why do you want to change one of the fundamental values of my country?
     
  15. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

    you keep saying that, and again I ask...
    What kind of 'evidence' would convince you?
     
  16. spike

    spike New Member

    If you had anything at all indicating that Phelps is a plant it would be a start.

    If RM had anything at all indicating that a population twice the size of the US repects bin Laden that would be considered evidence as well.

    So far nothing though.
     
  17. MrBishop

    MrBishop Well-Known Member

  18. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

    So, if I put up a web page, and it says Phelps is a plant, and link here to it,
    that will satisfy you?
    If not, be more specific.
     
  19. MrBishop

    MrBishop Well-Known Member

    Legitimacy
    Because of his outlandish behavior and activism, some have speculated whether Phelps might be an elaborate prankster or agent provocateur. Such speculation has come from across the spectrum, both from liberals who find him to be too much of a caricature of their arguments regarding the religious right and conservatives who believe he must be consciously trying to discredit social conservatives [30]:

    The group is so outrageous that some among the extreme-right have speculated that Phelps is a plant aimed at giving the anti-gay movement a bad name, said Mark Potok, the director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center which tracks hate crimes.

    Conservative author Keith R. Wood made this suggestion in a column in 2004, and it has been repeated elsewhere since then. Such claims, however, have been contradicted by testimony given by Phelps' estranged children who have argued their father's beliefs are very real.

    http://www.associatepublisher.com/e/f/fr/fred_phelps.htm
     
  20. ResearchMonkey

    ResearchMonkey Well-Known Member

    I think Phelps is simply insane, incapable of understanding anything that others have to say.Focusing on only what he want to say, his message. Hell bent that his ideas are the only facts regardless of the truth. Phelps and Spike share these same cognitive traits.
     

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