Could the US crack high-speed rail?
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2minkey
bootlicker
ultimately americans are simply not ready to give up their cars, even fractionally.
the mere idea of public transport is despicable to many reactionaries because, you know, the government is doing something... anything... and, to them public transportation is essentially a metaphor for communism. you give up your individualism (a car) and join THE COLLECTIVE on the stinking bus.
seriously, people here are that dumb and that bound up in their own bullshit. but you knew that.
i would love to use high speed trains, however, there would also have to be a major scaling-up of ancillary services e.g. most cities here SUCK for getting cabs...
the mere idea of public transport is despicable to many reactionaries because, you know, the government is doing something... anything... and, to them public transportation is essentially a metaphor for communism. you give up your individualism (a car) and join THE COLLECTIVE on the stinking bus.
seriously, people here are that dumb and that bound up in their own bullshit. but you knew that.
i would love to use high speed trains, however, there would also have to be a major scaling-up of ancillary services e.g. most cities here SUCK for getting cabs...
I think high speed trains would compete mainly against airplanes for long trips (over 1000km) and against cars on short trips (in the 300km to 1000km).
I can see a point of not wanting to give up your car, but when taking your car is not practical, high speed trains are a better, cheaper and faster (maybe) option than airplanes.
I can see a point of not wanting to give up your car, but when taking your car is not practical, high speed trains are a better, cheaper and faster (maybe) option than airplanes.
2minkey
bootlicker
nice puss-out cato. at least you're consistent. shit you don't even get to the point of ideological grandstanding, you just give up right away because of "bad people."
and what is this corruption you speak of? is it everywhere? all-pervasive? are people just bad, inherently? how about some evidence? or is it just how you feel? again.
yeah winky. what next? golly, after a high speed rail system, maybe they'd do something crazy like rebuild the ancient electrical grid. try getting a private business to do that. oh right you can't. so really we should simply regress into a society of dirt farmers.
seems like my first answer to this question was wrong.
the answer is "no, we will not have high speed rail, because we lack motivation and foresight."
i for one am proud of my epimethean jellyfish comrades.
and what is this corruption you speak of? is it everywhere? all-pervasive? are people just bad, inherently? how about some evidence? or is it just how you feel? again.
yeah winky. what next? golly, after a high speed rail system, maybe they'd do something crazy like rebuild the ancient electrical grid. try getting a private business to do that. oh right you can't. so really we should simply regress into a society of dirt farmers.
seems like my first answer to this question was wrong.
the answer is "no, we will not have high speed rail, because we lack motivation and foresight."
i for one am proud of my epimethean jellyfish comrades.
catocom
Well-Known Member
nice puss-out cato. at least you're consistent. shit you don't even get to the point of ideological grandstanding, you just give up right away because of "bad people."
and what is this corruption you speak of? is it everywhere? all-pervasive? are people just bad, inherently? how about some evidence? or is it just how you feel? again.
I have no idea what you are talking about in that first paragraph.
The corruption I speak of is with the politicians (DC, and possibly some locals)
The rails up north on the east coast here for instance has never turned a profit. (yet it gets subsidized year after year)
2minkey
bootlicker
"There's too much corruption to make them efficient, so we can't afford them."
that's a before-the-fact puss out. if you don't recognize that, well, maybe time for a new therapist?
"turn a profit" huh? gee, cato, i doubt the US highway system has ever turned a profit but it certainly enabled economic competitiveness in this country for decades.
maybe we should suggest that your program be terminated, as you are total drain on the system ha ha.
that's a before-the-fact puss out. if you don't recognize that, well, maybe time for a new therapist?
"turn a profit" huh? gee, cato, i doubt the US highway system has ever turned a profit but it certainly enabled economic competitiveness in this country for decades.
maybe we should suggest that your program be terminated, as you are total drain on the system ha ha.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Stalin had the right idea
You need not try to convince us that you hate life
Us good old tea party conservatives know all about you
self hating mentally disordered fudge packin' Liberals.
Sure as hell No one wants electrical power
I'm sure without the government the lights
would go out in a second.
Thing is you and them smelly 99 percenters
really believe that tommyrot just like the climate change horse puckey
Kumbya
You need not try to convince us that you hate life
Us good old tea party conservatives know all about you
self hating mentally disordered fudge packin' Liberals.
Sure as hell No one wants electrical power
I'm sure without the government the lights
would go out in a second.
Thing is you and them smelly 99 percenters
really believe that tommyrot just like the climate change horse puckey
Kumbya
catocom
Well-Known Member
well, at least you got that part right.
The highway system you talk about isn't even in the ball park of the cost of rail.
Want trains? Go to Europe.
Just as soon as they are economically feasible, someone
will come along & make them profitable. I can fly to the coast
for three hundred bucks. It's 3times that to train it.
Gimme my 4-wheeler & get out of the way.
Maybe we shoul dbring back busses too.
Just as soon as they are economically feasible, someone
will come along & make them profitable. I can fly to the coast
for three hundred bucks. It's 3times that to train it.
Gimme my 4-wheeler & get out of the way.
Maybe we shoul dbring back busses too.
2minkey
bootlicker
and that has something to do with your nonsense about corruption?
right, the US highway system was a minor undertaking in its day.
catocom
Well-Known Member
I knew you'd have a similar response.
I figured I should have qualified that a little better to explain that
I was mostly considering the ongoing maintenance cost, not the initial building.
You really kinda make yourself look shallow in your thinking of context there.
with that said.....I do have to consider the latest (recovery, and reinvestment) Scam.
The current admin did about the same amount with those moneys....not much.
I figured I should have qualified that a little better to explain that
I was mostly considering the ongoing maintenance cost, not the initial building.
You really kinda make yourself look shallow in your thinking of context there.
with that said.....I do have to consider the latest (recovery, and reinvestment) Scam.
The current admin did about the same amount with those moneys....not much.
Winky
Well-Known Member
2minkey
bootlicker
i am sure you had already accounted for the amortization on the pooper scoopers to remove refuse from the tracks. i mean, if you can get a better rate on your catheters, what is not to love?
you have clearly thought every contingency through.
instead of facing mecca, now i will face you. please send precise coordinates.
ResearchMonkey
Well-Known Member
They want to put a rail through here. We're fighting it hard, it's nothing but throwing money at unions across the board.
If the private sector can pull it off, fine.
If the private sector can pull it off, fine.
catocom
Well-Known Member
psst, it's not really the upkeep, It's corruption in the political system.
geez, it's like you can't see the trees for the leaves, much less the forest.
2minkey
bootlicker
there you go again bitching about this vague corruption for which you can provide no substance. this is the usual pattern. it's a reason for you to throw your arms up, as always.
all this forest and trees shit is the most-est funny coming from you, skittish flatlander.