Could the US crack high-speed rail?

Winky

Well-Known Member
All this infrastructure talk

drives me nervous
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2minkey

bootlicker
No, but you certainly make it clear about the alter you worship upon commie-boy.

riiiiight... and you can draw that conclusion how, seeing as i have advocated no position here other than 'americans don't like the idea of public transportation?'

oh, right. it's how you feel.

don't you have a book burning to get to? maybe a loyalty oath to chant with your children would start the journey out right?
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
You say something from the middle, then you swing all cawk sucking up to the leftist principals that feed and appease your gurlyman sensitive side.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
what the fuck are you even talking about?

look chooch, it's not my fault that you are dealing from a short deck. i know it seems kinda funny that i know a lot about uncle karl and other learnid things like um basic econ and that i don't follow the same chants you do.

it's really not very flattering (for you) when you try to paint others as wild-eyed commie beasts. it makes you look like a name-calling dipshit with nothing else to say.

if you have something substantial to say please do so. what are these leftist principles that you think i adhere to? put your money where your foot is. bitch.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Public transportation sucks.

It's needed, at the local level, assuming the locals want it.

As for federal control of any transporatation...IT'S NOT THEIR JOB
 

2minkey

bootlicker
yes the interstate highway system was a mistake. and there should be no regulation or oversight of aviation.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Jeez, that's why "post roads" are in the Constitution. Roads are one of the big three.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
yeah eight lane freeways were not named in the constitution. so you are interpreting, not receiving gospel.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
The Constitution doesn't say one buggy width tracks of dirt either. The federal government builds interstates, then passes the upkeep to the states, assisting with gas taxes.

Roads, not rails
 

2minkey

bootlicker
oh right so you don't believe in constitutional principles, just the letter of the law. which in no way names or anticipates (not that it could in this narrow frame anyway) a freeway system like the one we have. the roads they spoke of are not at all like the roads we have now. the federal government never should have gotten involved in the massive and costly interstate system. it is a serious violation of the SCALE of powers enumerated. unless you want to argue equivalences. say, that dirt roads : superhighways is analogous to tiny agrarian society : modern industrial economy. hmmm but that would be troublesome. original intent, dude.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
It says roads. It does not say transporation. Ben Franklin could have talked Madison into providing Sunday carriage rides. He didn't. The did, however, provide for thoroughfares.

Interstates vs US highways...there could be an argument. US66 did not provide adequate travel, so we have I-10. The feds are not to provide state highways or city streets.

Original intent - provide a clear path of travel for the mail to get through.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
mail huh? that's interesting. wonder what socioeconomic functions they intended it to serve. golly almost makes me think of how the gov invented the intarnets.
 

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
High speed rail won't work on our current rail lines, and adding new lines to accommodate it would be cost prohibitive in today's economic reality. Add into that the constant political meddling to get stops in just about every city near the proposed line, and you'll see where this is headed. Same thing happened with Acela. I believe THAT was what Cat was talking about when he mentioned corruption. ;)
 

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
It says roads. It does not say transporation. Ben Franklin could have talked Madison into providing Sunday carriage rides. He didn't. The did, however, provide for thoroughfares.

Interstates vs US highways...there could be an argument. US66 did not provide adequate travel, so we have I-10. The feds are not to provide state highways or city streets.

Original intent - provide a clear path of travel for the mail to get through.

Umm...the Interstate system was created to move troops and supplies anywhere in the US in times of war. We copied the idea from Germany just before WWII got our involvement.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Yep, that's why it's dubbed the Eisenhower Interstate System. Doesn't change
much of the argument though.
 
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