Say what? Either it is a law or it is not a law. Congress (state or federal) makes them. Courts uphold them.
Prop 19: Marijuana Legalization Gets its Number in California
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Say what? Either it is a law or it is not a law. Congress (state or federal) makes them. Courts uphold them.
Then you believe that the state of Cali should be allowed to legalize marijuana and regulate it's use?
Many people are in the same boat you are in. Even if they don't believe recreational use equates to drinking alcohol they still recognize that there are benefits to hemp (which does not get you high, BTW) and medical marijuana use. It just proves that people are not swallowing the propaganda and spin of either side. They are researching for themselves and making up their own minds on the subject.
ResearchMonkey
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Sure, as soon you reduce the federal government to a government with powers enumerated.
Of course that would include:
- Killing Obama care, I don't want to pay for dopers medical bills.
- Ending the federal welfare state.
- Shutting down most federal agencies and passing those powers back to the states as it should be.
- Letting employers decide if they want to hire dopers or not.
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ResearchMonkey
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Furthermore...
You can make heroin legal if you want, as long as I can open carry and castle law rules the day.
You can make heroin legal if you want, as long as I can open carry and castle law rules the day.
spike
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Marijuana smokers aren't likely to have any more medical bills than the average person. Alcohol drinkers are likely to though.
The rest of your post is unrelated to marijuana legislation. Employers can already decide if they want to hire people who use marijuana. I assume you like give them the same choice about beer drinkers right?
ResearchMonkey
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Beyond the knowledge that dope gets you high, you don't know very much dope.
As for employers, oh yeah, its kind of big deal. As a doper yourself, you are unaware/careless about issues that concern productive people who employ others. It's short-sighted liberal thing, like they cry about everything.
....and remember this too; driving isn't a right, its a privilege.. Enjoy your public transit.
As for employers, oh yeah, its kind of big deal. As a doper yourself, you are unaware/careless about issues that concern productive people who employ others. It's short-sighted liberal thing, like they cry about everything.
....and remember this too; driving isn't a right, its a privilege.. Enjoy your public transit.
spike
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I don't know very much dope? Do you personally know a lot of dope?
Ok, so you made all that shit up. We'll just ignore that as your usual trolling when you have no point.
Ok, you're at least attempting a vague point here. Why would it be a big deal any more so than employing someone who drinks beer?
I enjoy driving and public transit. Kinda weird of you to say, but thanks I suppose.
ResearchMonkey
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delta9 is processed considerably different than ETOH. Your physical body is more complex than a coffee filter, your mind, not so much.
For one ETOH will process much faster allowing for a sober employees in the morning. You, not so much, you should be tested at work if you have anything to do with Gov't contracts. (Those portable showers you make don't work so well)
For one ETOH will process much faster allowing for a sober employees in the morning. You, not so much, you should be tested at work if you have anything to do with Gov't contracts. (Those portable showers you make don't work so well)
spike
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Actually the mind is pretty damn complex.
Actually most of the effects of marijuana wear off after 2-3 hours. It takes longer than that to sober up from being drunk.
Also, there's not really any hangover to speak of from marijuana, unlike alcohol were having decent number of drinks can leave people very unproductive the whole next day.
So in light of the facts. Why would it be a big deal any more so than employing someone who drinks beer?
Didn't you used to do a lot of Meth? How did that affect your productivity?
ResearchMonkey
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Isn't amazing how you can solve the worlds ills when you're stoned and then can't remember what they were when your sober? --- then you fall into the feel good commie ideology, its like being high.
Not really, but you, as a stoner, might believe that. -- Enjoy your underdeveloped testicles.
Yeah, pot is where stupid people come from. Especially considering it greatly affects your short-term memory, a crucial part of learning. An area where you show little to no gains.
Again, alcohol is removed from the body much faster. Just because you don't feel high doesn't mean you aren't intoxicated, the fact is you are. (you're just used to being stupid?)
Where does delta9 reside in the body? Whats is ~90% of the brain made of? (clue: it's the same answer for both questions)
I always produced more than I used
There's no such thing as "Obama care." Didn't you follow any of the decisions on the Health Care Bill?
As for "dopers medical bills" you already pay for anyone ("doper" or not) who does not have health insurance when you or your insurance company pay your medical bills. The medical bills of the uninsured and poor do not simply disappear or get paid for by the health care fairy. We all pay those bills by paying more to cover those unpaid bills.
States do not have to participate in the federal welfare programs.
Employers have the choice to have their potential employees and current employees submit to drug testing. My employer had me submit to drug testing before I was hired.
The right to travel. You do not have a right to the any means beyond your feet. You must first purchase a horse. You have no right to one. On up the line to automobiles. The state does have the right to regulate the procedures.
spike
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Actually it's a fact. Most of the effects of Marijuana wear off in 2-3 hours. If you get pretty drunk it can last much longer than that. Also drinking has much more negative health effects.
Again alcohol does far more damage to the mind and body.
My short term memory is top notch.
No, the intoxicated part wears off in 2-3 hours. Where with alcohol some people can be hungover and unproductive for a couple days.
So again, given the facts why should marijuana be any bigger deal than alcohol considering just about everything about alcohol is worse?
I always produced more than I used
How old were the kids?
Sure wish we had time limitations on toll roads. I was told that's how it's done in France. New roads can be built for the purpose of charging a toll for it's use but only until the road is paid for. Then the toll is removed and it becomes a free road.
They put up a toll road in Austin. Some Spanish company got the toll rights and they are supposed to split it with the city. People won't use it so they're not getting the revenue they thought they would. So they've gone to cutting the toll booth personnel so that many of them are unattended. If you don't have exact change to go through you get a bill in the mail with an additional $1 in "administrative" fees attached.
I got one for a 60 cent toll. I sent them a check for 60 cents with a note about the booth not being attended. The next month I was sent a bill for the $1 "administrative" fee plus an additional $1 as an "administrative" fee for the "administrative" fee. I wrote my congressman and by the 3rd bill it was fixed. My complaint was that if they're going to have a toll road they need to have a way to pay it in cash at the exits. Not trap people to get additional revenue over the agreed upon toll.
Yeah, I do shit like that for $3. It's the fucking principle of the thing.
ResearchMonkey
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If driving was a right, they couldn't pull your license for back child support.