Taxes at Lowest Levels in 60 Years

catocom

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Again, it's the teabaggers that are confused for some unknown reason. That's what we're trying to figure out here.

the problem is...you are confusing teabaggers with teapartiers.

If you won't see the difference, then there no help for you.
 

ResearchMonkey

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catocom

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The 44% was from a recent poll. I'm not sure which numbers of yours you think I don't believe?

By you posting your source of the numbers , you obviously believe those numbers and sources,
therefore by deduction, if I post a source, and numbers to the contrary,
it stands to reason that you won't believe those numbers.

I will say, there's quite a difference though, to the contrary.
Don't drink the flavor-aide man.

Just like trying to label these groups of groups, that Is the grass root,
it's a juggernaut, and all those attempts will prove to be futile.
Politicians are going to have to get in line, or get out.

Obama said "bring it", and it's coming.
Careful what you ask for.
 

spike

New Member
By you posting your source of the numbers , you obviously believe those numbers and sources,
therefore by deduction, if I post a source, and numbers to the contrary,
it stands to reason that you won't believe those numbers.

Actually if you have some numbers to the contrary, please post them.

Just like trying to label these groups of groups, that Is the grass root,
it's a juggernaut, and all those attempts will prove to be futile.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Politicians are going to have to get in line, or get out.

Get in line with what?

Obama said "bring it", and it's coming.
Careful what you ask for.

What's coming?

You seem to be making a lot of vague claims that don't make much sense. Could you get a little more specific and maybe use some facts?
 

catocom

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no, I won't be posting numbers or sources.

I'll just say it once more...
This is an election year.
Wait and see. That is all.
 

spike

New Member
no, I won't be posting numbers or sources.

Right, you haven't and you wont. So you're claim that I won't believe your numbers was false since you don't have any.

This is an election year.
Wait and see. That is all.

Not sure what that has to do with this conversation. Irrelevant vague stuff again.

Also, you ignored most of my questions from my previous post.
 

spike

New Member
you're right on schedule spike.
Keep up the good work.

What schedule? Again this seems like vague bizarre randomness.

I'm not sure why you would even bother posting if you never want to clarify exactly what you're trying to say.

Let's backtrack:

1. Actually if you have some numbers to the contrary, please post them.

2. Get in line with what?

3. What's coming?

I will say, there's quite a difference though, to the contrary.

4. Difference from what? To the contrary of what?
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
I can't tell you what you want to know spike, because you have already proven you won't receive it.

The seeds are planted man.
You are just going to have to watch them grow.

If you can't grasp that concept, I can't make you. It's not meant to be.
 

spike

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I can't tell you what you want to know spike, because you have already proven you won't receive it.

I'd receive it fine if you could just quit being vague and answer a couple questions.

The seeds are planted man.
You are just going to have to watch them grow.

There again with the vague made up crap. I try and have a rational discussion and you just keep saying random stuff like "the moon poppies are in bloom" or some other such nonsense. :hippy:

If you can't grasp that concept, I can't make you. It's not meant to be.

Here's a concept maybe you could try to grasp. Talk in clear language with facts that back up what you're saying. That way people can have a real discussion with you.

If you want to talk about some seeds being planted specify what seeds you're talking about.

If you want to talk about something coming, specify what it is you believe to be coming and why.

If you want to talk about politicians needing to get in line specify what they are supposed to be getting in line with and why you think they have to do it.

If you don't think the numbers from a poll are real specify why.

This would make it so an actual discussion could take place instead of just random trippy meaningless vague sentences.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
aw, but that's no fun

I just like to try to drive you sane sometimes, but one of us ain't gonna make the grade.:aheadbng:
 

spike

New Member
aw, but that's no fun

It's no fun being concise so other people know what you're saying? I would think it wouldn't be much fun to post meaningless stuff. Seems like a waste of time to me.

I just like to try to drive you sane sometimes, but one of us ain't gonna make the grade.:aheadbng:

Yeah, sure. The mad bomber what bombs at midnight is consorting with the cheeses.

So anywho. 44% of tea partiers believe taxes have gone up. Why do you suppose that is?
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
no more a waste than playing video games.

Just because You can't make anything out of what I'm saying, doesn't mean
nobody else can't either.

continuing to say 44% blah blah blah, doesn't make it true.

Have you priced hamburger meat, chicken, pork, and other meats lately?
Have you notice any price change there in the last 3 months?
Because a direct tax on the 'little people' hasn't be imposed Yet, doesn't
mean there isn't a proxy effect.
So taking the proxy into account, and how a certain poll question is Asked,
one can spin the numbers in many ways.

There, hows that? any more clear?
 

spike

New Member
no more a waste than playing video games.

I don't know about that. Playing video games can have all sort of benefits according to studies.

Just because You can't make anything out of what I'm saying, doesn't mean
nobody else can't either.

You don't really say anything often times. Politicians need to get line? Unless you are willing to mention what you think they need to get in line with and why you think they need to do it the statement is meaningless.

continuing to say 44% blah blah blah, doesn't make it true.

Those were the results of the poll. Adding "blah blah blah" doesn't change those results.

Have you priced hamburger meat, chicken, pork, and other meats lately?
Have you notice any price change there in the last 3 months?

Yes, I bought ground turkey at $2 a pound today. Great deal.

Because a direct tax on the 'little people' hasn't be imposed Yet, doesn't
mean there isn't a proxy effect.
So taking the proxy into account, and how a certain poll question is Asked,
one can spin the numbers in many ways.


The question here was whether Obama has increased taxes.


That doesn't leave any room for speculating on meat prices.

There, hows that? any more clear?

Much better. Thanks!
 

ResearchMonkey

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"I know that there's been a lot of talk around town lately about the value-added tax. That is something that has worked for some countries. It's something that would be novel for the United States. And before, you know, I start saying 'this makes sense or that makes sense,' I want to get a better picture of what our options are."

Obama's VAT admission may explain his recent attempts to alter the terms of his central campaign promise. Twice in the past two weeks, Obama has claimed his middle class tax pledge only applied to income taxes rather than "any form of taxes".
OoooOoooh GoooOOoooD!

I'm sure you can reason this to mean that it won't be a tax on the middle class.
 
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