Texas GOP: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and porn

[spike]

The Texas Republican Party gives a whole new meaning to the word conservative.

The GOP there has voted on a platform that would ban oral and anal sex. It also would give jail sentences to anyone who issues a marriage license to a same-sex couple (even though such licenses are already invalid in the state).

“We oppose the legalization of sodomy,” the platform says. “We demand that Congress exercise its authority granted by the U.S. Constitution to withhold jurisdiction from the federal courts from cases involving sodomy.”

The Lone Star state initially passed a law barring sodomy in 1860. Violators faced anywhere from five to 15 years in prison. The ban was overturned in 2003.

In addition, the platform says that homosexuality “tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit and leads to the spread of dangerous communicable diseases.”

It also states that homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in public schools and “family” should not be redefined to include homosexual couples.

The 25-page proposal, presented last week as a guide for the state GOP over the next two years, includes other measures including outlawing “sexually oriented businesses” like strip clubs and banning “all pornography.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/201...age_and_ban_sodomy_outlaw_strip_clubs_an.html

More anti-freedom stuff.

 

[catocom]

your in Cali though right?
it shouldn't affect you. So how is it anti-freedom for you?

sounds like you are anti-freedom....
not wanting to give texas the freedom to choose.

 

[2minkey]

oh please cato.

 

[Gonz]

“tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit and leads to the spread of dangerous communicable diseases.”

Fundamentally, that's not incorrect.

 

[catocom]

oh please cato.

hey, there's 2 sides to every story.
I might as well present a possible opposing view, for intellectual minds to consider.

 

[2minkey]

Fundamentally, that's not incorrect.

yeah, well, lots of things tore into the social fabric of feudalism. you want that shit back? should nothing ever change?

BTW, "tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit and leads to the spread of dangerous communicable diseases" could be said just as readily about things associated with heterosexuals.

and heteros are the ones that kill babies, right?

 

[2minkey]

hey, there's 2 sides to every story.
I might as well present a possible opposing view, for intellectual minds to consider.

i did consider it. and you saw my response.

 

[catocom]

everything ain't all about You though

 

[spike]

your in Cali though right?
it shouldn't affect you. So how is it anti-freedom for you?

sounds like you are anti-freedom....
not wanting to give texas the freedom to choose.

It's anti-freedom in that they want to limit who people marry, what they do in their bedroom, where they go for entertainment, and what they look at. Trying to force their morality on people through legislation.

That is certainly not encouraging personal freedom.

 

[catocom]

It's anti-freedom in that they want to limit who people marry, what they do in their bedroom, where they go for entertainment, and what they look at. Trying to force their morality on people through legislation.

That is certainly not encouraging personal freedom.

It's anti-freedom that you want to limit their choice to vote on whether they
Want these limits in that area.
They aren't forcing anything on you, being in another state.
Now if this were being introduced as a national bill, it'd be different.
You don't like it, don't go to Texas.

 

[Gonz]

yeah, well, lots of things tore into the social fabric of feudalism. you want that shit back? should nothing ever change?

Societies change. Not a bad deal either. However, having the government usurp authority by mandating change is completely & absolutely wrong.

 

[2minkey]

yep, and a few reactionaries in the texas government are legislating their personal morals... now that's change we can believe in!!!

 

[spike]

It's anti-freedom that you want to limit their choice to vote on whether they
Want these limits in that area.

It's anti-freedom to be against people taking away freedom? Doesn't make any sense.

They aren't forcing anything on you, being in another state.
Now if this were being introduced as a national bill, it'd be different.
You don't like it, don't go to Texas.

I have no plans on going to texas. I'm still going to discuss this though because it's ridiculous.

 

[spike]

However, having the government usurp authority by mandating change is completely & absolutely wrong.

Yes, the GOP is certainly trying to usurp authority over personal freedom.

 

[catocom]

you can't gamble in this state other than the lottery
How come you aren't protesting that?

You can't buy alcohol on Sunday in certain counties here.
How come you aren't protesting that?

There is a ban on porno in this county.
How come you aren't protesting that?

You can't smoke cigs in public buildings in the city.
How come you aren't protesting that?

You just had all kinds of new restrictions put on guns in Chicago.
How come you aren't protesting that?

...

 

[spike]

you can't gamble in this state other than the lottery
How come you aren't protesting that?

You can't buy alcohol on Sunday in certain counties here.
How come you aren't protesting that?

There is a ban on porno in this county.
How come you aren't protesting that?

You can't smoke cigs in public buildings in the city.
How come you aren't protesting that?

You just had all kinds of new restrictions put on guns in Chicago.
How come you aren't protesting that?

...

You're trying to change the subject. That's no way to debate.

It'd be like if in the thread on the oil spill and you were like "hey, natural gas drilling is ruining people's drinking water and making it flammable. Why don't we talk about that instead."

I don't like some of those things either cat. Start a thread if you want. THe current topic is "Texas GOP: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and porn".

 

[Gonz]

yep, and a few reactionaries in the texas government are legislating their personal morals... now that's change we can believe in!!!

Unless it's done the other way, then we get to hear about feelings & how societies change.

Which do you think more closely resembles a majority of Americans?

 

[spike]

Which do you think more closely resembles a majority of Americans?

You think the majority of Americans want the Texas GOP to take away freedom?

That would suck.

 

[catocom]

You're trying to change the subject. That's no way to debate.

It'd be like if in the thread on the oil spill and you were like "hey, natural gas drilling is ruining people's drinking water and making it flammable. Why don't we talk about that instead."

I don't like some of those things either cat. Start a thread if you want. THe current topic is "Texas GOP: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and porn".

No, it's all about freedom.
You just don't want to admit that you want to take away people's freedom on gun rights.

 

[spike]

No, it's all about freedom.
You just don't want to admit that you want to take away people's freedom on gun rights.

WTF? I own guns. Seriously, you just want to change the subject right?