Texas GOP: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and porn

catocom

Well-Known Member
subject?
You posted and started talking about freedom.
I though the subject was freedom.
Is it not?

anyway..
you said you were for some of those things I listed....
just replace gun rights with whatever it is that you are for limiting then.
 

spike

New Member
subject?
You posted and started talking about freedom.
I though the subject was freedom.
Is it not?

anyway..
you said you were for some of those things I listed....
just replace gun rights with whatever it is that you are for limiting then.

Ok, you really want to change the subject huh?

I'm a smoker but I understand not being able to smoke in public buildings because other people have to cope with it as well. When I smoke outside and people walk up on me and give me a look I'm thinking "I was here and then then you fucking walked up to my smoke...fuck off". On the other hand I don't try to impose my habit on people...like in a public building.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
so, was your freedom impeded, or the other person's?

I say both, but you can't have it both ways, so imo it's up to what the majority wants.
Right?
 

2minkey

bootlicker
WTF? I own guns. Seriously, you just want to change the subject right?

i bet you hate babies, too!

this isn't about rational discussion. this is about being on the right team. you and i, apparently, are on the other team.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
not on the gun issue, in spikes case the smoking issue either imo.

It's unusual for anyone that actually claims to be liberal to support gun issues though.
 

spike

New Member
so, was your freedom impeded, or the other person's?

You mean in a situation where someone walks up near me while I'm smoking? Nobody's freedom would be impeded. If someone walks up to a smoker and then gives the smoker a dirty look they're just dumb.

Smoking in a public building is a different story. My smoke could be stinking up their building and bothering other people in the building so it's not unreasonable for me to smoke where it doesn't affect other people.

Much different than gay marriage, sodomy, strip clubs, and porn don't generally affect other people that aren't involved. So by trying to outlaw those things is just taking away other peoples personal freedom.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
You mean in a situation where someone walks up near me while I'm smoking? Nobody's freedom would be impeded. If someone walks up to a smoker and then gives the smoker a dirty look they're just dumb.

Smoking in a public building is a different story. My smoke could be stinking up their building and bothering other people in the building so it's not unreasonable for me to smoke where it doesn't affect other people.

Much different than gay marriage, sodomy, strip clubs, and porn don't generally affect other people that aren't involved. So by trying to outlaw those things is just taking away other peoples personal freedom.

I disagree with that part.
That's very debateable.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Been waiting for you to participate for several years now.

this coming from the guy who refuses to do any background learning so he can even competently discuss the shit he makes grand proclamations on?

you can't possibly be serious.

this is an internet forum. it's nothing more than play. just ask RM or cerise. and give them the same crap you give me, huh?
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Background learning? Outside of economics, what do I need to learn? I've studied the Constitution (and have no use for case law in its regard) & history, in general. What am I missing?

You come in, say we're all stupid, make some smarmy remark & move on. I'd like to see what that eduation bought you.

I ignore Cerise & Gotholic. They & spike are two sides of the same coin.

RM actually participates.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
i never said you were all stupid. stop putting words in my mouth. you're the one that's interested in labeling everything, regardless of whether the label applied is being used in a way that in useful...

yes, gonz, you should know a lot more about a lot of things to sustain the kind of commentary that you make - history, political science, basic ideas about philosophy and influential schools of thought from perhaps the 17th century forward.

so while you are still content to throw a "communist" (or similar) bumper sticker across anything that puts a bee in your bonnet, i'm not going to put much effort in to much more than lampoonery, because that is what it deserves.

to you, "contributing" seems to depend on the extent to which your ideology is mirrored. sorry, then, i guess i am not contributing.
 

Gotholic

Well-Known Member
Background learning? Outside of economics, what do I need to learn? I've studied the Constitution (and have no use for case law in its regard) & history, in general. What am I missing?

You come in, say we're all stupid, make some smarmy remark & move on. I'd like to see what that eduation bought you.

I ignore Cerise & Gotholic. They & spike are two sides of the same coin.

RM actually participates.

What side am I on? What kinda coin? Why do you ignore?
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
how about perversion that leads to derangement, That leads some people to sexual assault?

Oh, no, no that could never happen:retard:
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
yes, gonz, you should know a lot more about a lot of things to sustain the kind of commentary that you make - history, political science, basic ideas about philosophy and influential schools of thought from perhaps the 17th century forward

Are you suggesting that all this reading has done me no good unless a certified perfesser has told me so? The federalist papers aren't better at teaching Constitutional law than the one written last year by a popmous ass? Reading Communist Manifesto or Mein Kampf won't do any good without someone else explaining what I read, kinda like Katie Couric telling me what the President said in his State of the Union Adddress?
 

2minkey

bootlicker
no but i think i am suggesting that you probably should be familiar with more than three or four things when you're trying to discuss things that are kinda complex.

the constitution is not the universal guide to life and society. nothing is. and it wasn't conceived in a vacuum either.

if you want to be an epistemological baboon, that's your choice, but don't expect more than jest in response to the monkey with the funny hat.
 
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